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The ZDoggMD Show

Exploring The Threads of Awakening: Emptiness, Unity, Energy, and Psyche (w/Dr. Pierce Salguero)

The ZDoggMD Show

ZDoggMD LLC

Medicine, Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality

4.83K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2025

⏱️ 192 minutes

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Summary

A deep dive into the core experiential threads that might arise during spiritual awakening, ultimately unique to each human. Peep our earlier introduction interview on the Multidharma Threads model here on YouTube or here on Apple Podcasts. ⁠Dr. Pierce Salguero⁠ has studied spirituality through decades of practice and scholarship, specializing in hathayoga, meditation, shamanic rituals, spirit healing, Thai medicine, and Buddhist philosophy. He is now a professor researching Asian history, religions, and healing traditions. His Multidharma framework distills the lessons from a lifetime of exploration of spirituality, providing a novel framework for modern seekers. Here's a⁠ deep dive into the Multidharma Threads model⁠⁠. ⁠ ⁠Pierce's books and more⁠. Pierce's newsletter to get notified when his full-length Threads book drops. And here's a link to zoom meetups that discuss the Threads model. Two resources Pierce mentioned for spiritual emergencies/crises: Cheetah House Spiritual Emergence Network Video show archive, audio podcasts, music parodies, Supporter Tribe membership options, merch, social media, and email contact form: ⁠⁠https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd⁠⁠ Support us with a 1-time donation and get a personal email response from me: ⁠⁠https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/zdoggmd⁠⁠ More about Dr. Z: ⁠⁠https://zdoggmd.com/about-z/⁠⁠ Timecodes and Topics: 0:00 - Intro 0:05 - Recap of prior Threads discussion, psychiatric vs. spiritual crises 20:45 - The Emptiness Thread: Experiences, practices, pitfalls, integration & release 1:03:29 - The Unity Thread: Experiences, practices, integration & release 1:30:13 The non-dual endpoint of all the Threads 1:35:15 The Energy Thread: Experiences, practices, integration & release 2:09:36 - The Psyche Thread: Experiences, practices, pitfalls, integration & release 2:54:23 Integration and release of all the threads 3:04:46 Spiritual emergency or crisis vs. psychiatric & resources to help Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

One, two, three.

0:01.7

Just give it patience.

0:04.9

Yeah.

0:18.5

Hey, everyone. Welcome back. It's Zubin, and I have Pierce Salgaro here with me. Hi, Pierce.

0:20.9

Hey, hey. How you doing? Good to be back. Welcome back. Yeah, man. So the last conversation we had,

0:25.3

I'm not going to rehash it all, but I'm going to point people in the show description to our previous

0:30.3

discussion called unraveling the threads of awakening. And Pierce has a map that I think is much more satisfying for many people in terms of validating

0:39.6

their lived experience in terms of their awakening phenomena.

0:44.3

And the response to that episode has been tremendous.

0:47.1

And we thought, let's come back and just do a deep dive into each of the main four threads

0:52.7

that we talked about last time,

0:55.2

emptiness, unity, love, energy, and the psyche or the unconscious.

1:00.4

And we'll maybe touch into the life thread and something that you've called sort of spiritual

1:06.1

crisis, which is how do you differentiate some of these phenomena that can happen in

1:10.3

awakening from like a

1:11.6

psychiatric issue that would land you in a 72 hour hold or worse right so we're going to dive into it

1:18.9

and i think people who are listening might in the comments leave their own experience like what was

1:24.0

the phenomenology and what does that word mean, Pierce phenomenology?

1:27.9

Can you define it?

1:29.6

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:30.7

Yeah, I thought phenomenology would be a good focus for this session.

1:34.5

Since last time we did a lot of theory, last session, it was kind of like laying out the map,

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