me being such a doom fanatic, Brian says, yeah, here you may be a mineral, all, all,

a fax you, the notes, and I'm looking at my old thermal paper fax, that's how long ago this was. It's rolling out of the end of the machine

and I'm staring at it going just open mouth going, oh my God, I've got Frank Herbert's notes coming out of my fax machine.

Grandma Girl here, I'm in Yon Fog Fog,

and today I have a double-dune extravaganza because I'm here with both Kevin J Anderson

and Scott Brick. Kevin is the author of more than 180 books including Star Wars

novels, X-Files Batman and Superman novels, and his own original

works, The Saga of the Seven Sons, Tara Incognita, and the Dan Shambles zombie P.I.

But he's best known for his work on more than 20

Dune novels with Brian Herbert. And Scott, Scott Brick, has narrated 1,100 books in every conceivable category.

Since 2016, he's also taught the nation's first fully accredited course

in audiobook narration at UCLA. and he too is best known for his work on the Dune

series. And before we start I have to tell you a funny story. After we finished the

interview Scott emailed me and said he had

told his wife he was going to be on a podcast, but he didn't say which one. And when

he told her later, he said she, quote, about lost her freaking mind, unquote. her it all the time. Why didn't you tell me? Which cracked me up and he thanked me

for giving him street cred at home. So I want to give a big extra shout out to

his wife, Suzanne Elise Freeman, who's an accomplished audiobook narrator herself.

In fact, she and Scott won an audio award last year for a book they narrated together

called Intergalactic Exterminators Inc.

which I'm now going to go check out.

And Suzanne, thanks for listening.

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