Hi, I'm Zibi Owens, and this is Moms Don't Have Time to Read Books.

As a mom of four kids in New York City and a writer myself, I know all too well how short everyone is on time, so I'm here to help.

I'm going to interview authors and writers of all types about their work, especially as it

relates to parenting and family issues. Hopefully you can listen while doing 8 million other

things and fall in love with these talented scribes in their fantastic books, essays, and songs

like I have, plus get some tips on surviving parenthood.

For more about me, you can check out my essays at zibby owens.com.

This episode of Moms Don't Have Time to Read Books has been brought to you by Chloe's

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I'm here today with Jill Cargman.

Jill Kargman, Jill is a native New Yorker and is an insanely prolific writer.

She's written multiple novels, two collection of essays, and a children's book.

Her most recent essay collection was titled Sprinkled Glitter on My Grave, Observations,

Rants, and Other Uplifting Thoughts About Life.

To some, Jill is most well known as the

creator, writer, producer, and star of the show Odd Mom Out, a show about all the craziness of

raising kids in New York, especially here on the Upper East Side where she lives now. So welcome to Jill.

Thank you, Zibi. This is fun. So Odd Mom Out was an offshoot of your hilarious novel, Momzillas.

I'm a native New Yorker and Uppar East Sideer, too.

What were the things about the Upper East Side that you were like,

I totally have to write about this?

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