Hi everybody. I'm Ashley Bannfield and this is Drop Dead Serious.

It was day 18 of the Karen Reed trial and if you're keeping count, that means we are five weeks into this thing.

If you count your selection, which I always do. But day 18 delivered some new revelations on every front.

We heard from DNA scientists, a digital forensics expert, and we saw the defense go after a

prosecution witness and hard. I mean, wait for this one, folks. I am going to describe this thing

to you of what happened. I mean, you can apply

every verb you want, shredded, eviscerated, pummeled, destroyed. Do you get where I'm going?

I'm going to take you there, but it is worth the wait. Then also, this person that was shredded,

eviscerated, pummeled, wasn't just like ripped up on his analysis.

He was ripped up on his credentials, too, and it was like really, really embarrassing.

Wait for it. It'll be great.

And then by the end of the day, it wasn't clear whether the prosecution had just strengthened their case or if they'd introduced a brand new problem for their case.

So let's start from the top and I will let you know this. We have the Atlas cam. We finally got

the Atlas cam up in the podcast studio. I don't know if you've heard him every so often, snort or

cough in the background, but he's at my feet always at every single broadcast and every

single podcast. And so finally we got the Atlas Cam and he's completely cashed out having the time

of his life. So let's start. The first witness was Nicholas Bradford, a DNA expert with

Bodie technology. Prosecutor Adam Lally walked him through what he found on the

tail light of Karen Reed's SUV.

And Mr. Bradford told the jury that he found DNA that most likely came from John O'Keefe,

along with two unidentified individuals.

He also looked at whether the DNA could belong to Massachusetts state police officers,

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