Former members of the Trump administration say that Donald Trump's

presidency was hampered by too many entrenched bureaucrats working against

his administration.

Now the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025

is hoping to have a team lined up that will make sure

if he wins he'll be able to fully implement

a conservative agenda.

In this episode, we sit down with a key member of that project,

John Mackin T, to discuss their strategy

for a second Trump term.

I'm Daly Weyer, editor-in-chief John Bickley, it's Sunday April 21st, and this is an extra edition of Morning

Wire.

Joining us now is John Mackin T former assistant to President Trump, founder of the

Right Stuff and senior advisor to the Heritage Foundation. John thanks for joining us.

First off, tell us what your role was in the last year of the Trump administration.

In the last year of the Trump administration, I was the body man to the president, which is a

travel aide that's with him 24-7, but I also took on an additional role which was the

director of the personnel office. So each president has political appointees in the

executive branch about 3 to 4,000 of them and the

personnel office is in charge of hiring and firing and moving those people around

everything from the Secretary of Defense to the scheduler in a random HUD office all 4,000 political

appointees go through this office and yeah we took that over in early 20 and did it for the

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