There's the liberal media that people like Sean Hannity scream about all the time.

He says the media is out to get you, incredibly biased.

But then there's the actually liberal media.

There are progressive news websites trying to take on the Hanities of the world.

But right now, it's not a fair fight, and a former Fox News staffer is joining the battle.

Hey, I'm Brian Stelter. Welcome to this week's Reliable Sources Podcast. This is our weekly chance to go more in depth

with media leaders and newsmakers. Talking about how the news gets made and how all

of us can help make it better.

And my guest this week is Carl Cameron.

He's the former chief political correspondent for Fox News.

He spent 22 years at the network.

I'm sure you know him as campaign Carl. The man who

covered every presidential election since 1996, so his new job is getting a

lot of attention. He's collaborating with a brand new site, a

progressive news site called Front Page Live. And he's here with me to tell me all

about it. Campaign Carl, thanks for being with me.

Hi Brian, delighted.

It's a thrill to talk with you.

I've been watching you on television for decades.

You left Fox right after the inauguration in 2017.

And I remember you gave an interview back then saying collectively all of us in the media could be doing a lot better

What were the reasons why you left Fox after Trump's inauguration?

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