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🗓️ 26 November 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to part two of my conversation with Andrew Bustamante. |
| 0:04.0 | The election is existential now on both sides. So, uh, |
| 0:08.1 | Trump is obviously going after his political rivals. If the Republicans win, I would imagine |
| 0:15.6 | that whoever comes into office will pardon Trump, just to end all of that. I believe he can't pardon himself. |
| 0:22.8 | So that's off the table. |
| 0:24.8 | But if the Democrats win, they're going to go after him legally in a big way. |
| 0:29.8 | So the bad news is that becoming president is now existential in office and out of office. |
| 0:35.8 | And this is why if I were advising Trump, I would say, |
| 0:38.8 | whatever you do, don't pursue Obama. That would be a huge mistake because they will come after |
| 0:46.2 | you tenfold. And then when it switches again, they will come after them tenfold. So anyway, |
| 0:52.4 | we're in a super weird death loop. But talk to me about Venezuela. So China is the |
| 0:59.4 | thing that I'm very sad anytime people get distracted because while I would love to hold hands |
| 1:06.0 | and march into the future with China as an ally, but we not decouple, but we get realistic about not letting anyone control certain aspects |
| 1:17.9 | of our way of life. |
| 1:19.5 | Certainly not somebody who has proven that they will very rapidly become an adversary. |
| 1:25.5 | What is Venezuela all about? |
| 1:27.2 | How does China figure into this and what should we do? |
| 1:31.2 | I'll answer your question directly first and then I'll kind of backfill it with why I think, |
| 1:36.0 | I think the way I think. I believe Venezuela is a red herring. I believe that all of the Venezuela |
| 1:41.0 | talk and the Venezuela focus is not actually the focus of the president, |
| 1:44.6 | not actually the focus of the Department of War, as it's now called. I believe that that is all a |
| 1:49.5 | red herring that's being given to us as a pill that we'll accept because we all kind of agree, |
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