Ex-CDC Doctor On RFK Jr.'s Risky Vaccine Policies

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🗓️ 9 July 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

In just a few short months on the job, Health And Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has managed to upend the American public health system, successfully inserting his decades of vaccine skepticism into national policy. Late last month, he fired every member of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s vaccine advisory panel, replacing them mostly with people who’ve voiced skepticism about vaccines. In May, he announced the CDC would stop recommending COVID vaccines for pregnant people and babies. The American Academy of Pediatrics and other health groups are now suing him and HHS over the latter decision. Dr. Fiona Havers, a former senior advisor on vaccine policy at the CDC, resigned from the agency over Kennedy’s changes to federal vaccine policy. She joins us to talk about what everyday people should do to keep themselves and their family safe. And in headlines: President Donald Trump abruptly reversed course on sending defense weapons to Ukraine, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins doubles down on “no amnesty” for undocumented farmworkers, and someone out there is using AI to impersonate Secretary of State/National Security Advisor/Acting Archivist Marco Rubio.

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0:00.0	It's Wednesday, July 9th.
0:03.7	I'm Jane Koston, and this is Water Day.
0:05.7	The show that is sure that Twitter's AI bot, Grock, getting an update and immediately becoming
0:10.6	blindingly anti-Semitic, is not a horrifying vision of the future to come.
0:15.8	Definitely not foreboding and menacing.
0:17.8	Totally fine and cool.
0:28.8	Music boating and menacing. Totally fine and cool. On today's show, President Donald Trump calls out Russian President Vladimir Putin for his quote, bullshit.
0:34.6	And someone has been using AI to impersonate Secretary of State slash National Security
0:38.8	Advisor slash acting archivist Marco Rubio. But let's start with COVID. Remember COVID?
0:45.2	1.2 million Americans have died from the disease since 2020. And an estimated 300 people are still
0:51.3	dying every week. So it's a real stroke of luck that we have an esteemed
0:55.0	champion of science and the power of vaccines in charge of the Department of Health and
0:59.0	Human Services. Oh, wait. No, we do not. We have Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Kennedy is a long-time
1:08.0	anti-vaccination enthusiast. I mean, he claimed in 2023 that the polio vaccine killed more people than polio did.
1:15.3	So if you say to me, did the, you know, the polio vaccine was effective against polio, I'm going to say yes.
1:20.9	If I say, if you say to me, did it kill more people that it did ever cause more deaths than I've heard?
1:26.9	I would say, I don't know, because we
1:28.5	don't have the data on that. I do have the data. It did not. It absolutely did not. So it is
1:35.7	depressing and horrifying, but not surprising to anyone besides Louisiana Republican Senator Bill
1:40.5	Cassidy, that Kennedy has been aggressively acting on that skepticism in the few months he's
1:45.7	been leading HHS. At the end of June, Kennedy fired every member of the Centers for Disease Control
1:51.3	and Prevention's Vaccine Advisory Committee, known as ACIP, or the Advisory Committee on Immunization
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