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🗓️ 1 April 2025
⏱️ 34 minutes
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FBI undercover agent Scott Payne’s job was to infiltrate the most dangerous gangs of our times: outlaw bikers, drug cartels and the international neo-Nazi networks hellbent on inciting a race war.
He was taking down these groups from within. And Scott was good at it — people confided in him their most audacious plans for mass violence and domestic terrorism.
In the second season of White Hot Hate, host Michelle Shephard gives you an unvarnished view of a life undercover. Because after a 28-year-long career pretending to be somebody else, Agent Payne is ready to tell his side of the story.
This series was produced alongside a book co-written by Scott Payne and Michelle Shephard titled Code Name: Pale Horse: How I Went Undercover to Expose America's Nazis.
More episodes of White Hot Hate: Agent Pale Horse are available at: https://link.mgln.ai/rN3swb
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| 0:00.0 | Scott Payne spent nearly two decades working undercover as a biker, a neo-Nazi, a drug dealer, and a killer. |
| 0:08.4 | But his last big mission at the FBI was the wildest of all. |
| 0:12.9 | I have never had to burn Bibles. |
| 0:15.7 | I have never had to burn an American flag. |
| 0:17.9 | And I damn sure was never with a group of people that stole a goat, |
| 0:21.4 | sacrificed it in a pagan ritual, and drank his blood, and I did all that in about three days with |
| 0:25.6 | these guys. |
| 0:26.9 | Listen to Agent Pale Horse, the second season of White Hot Hate. |
| 0:31.1 | Available now. |
| 0:34.7 | This is a CBC podcast. |
| 0:39.8 | FBI Special Agent Scott Payne went undercover to infiltrate the most dangerous gangs of our times, |
| 0:47.8 | outlaw bikers, drug cartels, and an international neo-Nazi network that wants to start a race war. |
| 0:56.1 | I'm Michelle Shepard, and in Agent Pale Horse, the second season of CBC's White Hot Hate, |
| 1:02.6 | you'll hear an unvarnished view of what it looks like from the inside. |
| 1:08.2 | What's it like to live a lie your whole life in order to expose a truth? To join |
| 1:14.4 | the KKK one month and then be a hired hitman the next. To become friends with a biker, |
| 1:21.4 | you're trying to jail for life. To almost lose your job, your marriage, and your mind. |
| 1:28.2 | After a 28-year-long career pretending to be someone else, |
| 1:32.6 | Scott Payne is ready to tell his own story. |
| 1:35.6 | Now, here's the first episode of Agent Pale Horse. |
| 1:50.9 | The following episode contains strong language and descriptions of violence. |
| 1:52.9 | Please take care when listening. |
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