Everything You Need To Know About SEED OILS (Including One Cool "Trick" To Make Them Less Damaging), With Dr. Nick Norwitz
Boundless Life
Ben Greenfield
4.6 • 5.3K Ratings
🗓️ 18 December 2025
⏱️ 65 minutes
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In this episode with Dr. Nick Norwitz, you’ll get to discover how a Harvard-trained MD/PhD used a simple, eyebrow-raising experiment with Oreos to challenge conventional thinking on cholesterol, metabolism, and the stories told about health.
We dive into his now-viral “Oreo experiment,” where adding Oreos to a ketogenic diet dropped his LDL cholesterol faster and more effectively than a high-intensity statin—an unexpected outcome that opens the door to deeper questions about lipid markers, risk factors, and how the body actually processes dietary fats.
Nick Norwitz MD PhD is a researcher-educator whose mission is to “Make Metabolic Health Mainstream.” He graduated Valedictorian from Dartmouth College, majoring in Cell Biology and Biochemistry, before completing his PhD in Metabolism at the University of Oxford and his MD at Harvard Medical School. Nick has made a name for himself as a clinical research and metabolic health educator, speaking and writing on topics ranging from brain health, the microbiome, mental health, muscle physiology, mitochondrial function, cholesterol and lipids, and so on.
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| 0:00.0 | My name is Ben Greenfield, and on this episode of the Boundless Life podcast, the punchline was the |
| 0:06.6 | Oreo cookies slaughtered the statin for LDL lowering. |
| 0:09.7 | No way, really? |
| 0:11.0 | They were twice as powerful, and they acted in one-third the time. |
| 0:14.0 | So the drop in LZL was a 71% reduction on the Oreo cookies in about two weeks. |
| 0:21.8 | And then... |
| 0:22.8 | Welcome to the boundless life with me, your host, Ben Greenfield. |
| 0:27.3 | I'm a personal trainer, exercise physiologist, and nutritionist. |
| 0:30.6 | And I'm passionate about helping you discover unparalleled levels of health, fitness, longevity, and beyond. |
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