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Everyone Says Don’t Hold Bonds in Taxable Accounts. They’re Wrong

Afford Anything

Paula Pant | Cumulus Podcast Network

Investing, Business, Entrepreneurship

4.63.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2025

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

#651: Many who reach CoastFI find themselves in a strange in-between: financially independent enough to stop saving, but not ready to fully retire. When you’re living off a taxable brokerage for decades, does the “never hold bonds in taxable” rule still apply? This episode explores how traditional asset location advice meets real-life spending. We unpack how to balance growth, taxes, and stability when your taxable account becomes your paycheck. Then we shift to two more listener dilemmas: helping a parent retire through shared home ownership, and using covered-call strategies to earn income from a stock-heavy portfolio. Listener Questions in This Episode Brandon (1:28): “I’m CoastFI and will withdraw from my taxable account for the next 20 years. Should I hold bonds in taxable, or keep it all in stocks?” Brandon’s retirement accounts can grow untouched, but his taxable brokerage will fund two decades of living expenses. The classic rule says avoid bonds in taxable, yet Paula explains why that advice isn’t universal. When your taxable account funds your life, it needs to act as a complete portfolio. We discuss how to balance risk, prioritize liquidity, and plan your glidepath into CoastFI life. Andrew (22:07): “My spouse and I co-own a home with my mother-in-law. How can we help her retire without creating family tension?” We explore fair, flexible ways to support an aging parent while keeping relationships healthy. Paula explains how to design a win-win deal and why seller financing can help balance cash flow and peace of mind. Chandan (49:16): “Can covered-call ETFs help me generate income from my stock portfolio and RSUs?” We explain how covered calls work, what “covered” really means, and the tradeoff between steady income and limited upside. For those with concentrated stock positions, Paula shares when covered calls make sense—and when simpler plans win. Key Takeaways The “no bonds in taxable” rule isn’t universal. When you’re drawing solely from taxable accounts for many years, that account needs to function as its own mini-portfolio, including bonds or cash for stability. Asset location follows purpose, not dogma. Tax efficiency matters, but liquidity and risk management take priority when the account funds your life. Think in terms of buckets. Your retirement accounts can stay growth-oriented while your taxable account carries the ballast for spending. Plan ahead for rebalancing. When taxable balances decline, know how and when to refill your bond/cash sleeve from other sources to keep your glidepath intact. The transition to CoastFI is a mental shift. You’re no longer optimizing for maximum returns, you’re designing for peace of mind and steady withdrawals. Chapters Note: Timestamps are approximate and may differ across listening platforms due to dynamically inserted ads. (01:28) Brandon’s CoastFI question: bonds in taxable when withdrawals start now (03:56) Why “no bonds in taxable” is a rule of thumb, not a law (12:42) How to treat taxable as a stand-alone portfolio (18:31) Balancing tax efficiency with cash-flow reality (25:26) Helping a parent retire through shared property ownership (01:05:40) Options: Buying or selling with Options (01:07:07) Covered calls explained simply, income with a ceiling Resources & Links Asset Location Cheat Sheet (free): affordanything.com/assetlocation Guide to Double-I FIRE (free): affordanything.com/fiire Share this episode with a friend, colleagues, your the person you buy garbage bags from: https://affordanything.com/episode651 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Joe, you know how sometimes we have episodes where we really keep to a particular theme?

0:04.9

Sometimes.

0:06.2

Today, we've got three incredibly different areas of personal finance that we're covering.

0:14.2

So we're going to be talking to somebody who's reached CoastFi and has some questions about asset allocation and asset location.

0:21.2

Okay.

0:22.0

That's a fancy way of saying, where do you put various things in your portfolio and how much

0:25.9

of it do you have?

0:27.0

We are going to be answering a question from someone whose mother-in-law needs some money for

0:33.4

retirement.

0:33.8

And he has a very generous but somewhat creative idea as to how to help his mother-in-law.

0:40.8

Sounds good.

0:41.9

And we're going to talk about covered calls.

0:45.5

I love covered calls.

0:47.1

I know you do.

0:48.5

I don't do them often and I'll explain why, but I just love explaining how they work.

0:53.3

Amazing.

0:53.9

Well, all of that is coming up right now. Welcome to the Afford Anything Podcast, the show that knows you can afford anything, not everything. This show covers five pillars, financial psychology, increasing your income, investing, real estate and entrepreneurship. It's double-eye fire. I'm your host, Paula Pant. I trained in economic reporting at Columbia. Every other episode

1:11.7

ish. I answer questions that come from you, and I do so with my buddy, the former financial

1:16.3

planner, Joe, Joe. Paula, what's going on? Oh, you know what? I am excited to dive into

1:23.7

today. So let's get started. This first question comes from Brandon.

1:29.0

Hi, Paula. Question about bonds and Coast FI. I've never owned any bonds. I'm 100%

1:35.4

equities. I've always been aggressive, but I do wish to become more conservative soon,

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