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Everyone Loves Free Markets. But This Meant One Thing To Romans And Something Completely Different to Milton Friedman

History Unplugged Podcast

History Unplugged

Society & Culture, History

4.23.7K Ratings

🗓️ 20 December 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

“Free market” is a concept beloved by many but understood in incredibly different ways. Most use Milton Friedman’s definition: the absence of any and all government activity in economic affairs. In the Cold War, free markets were understood to be a feature of liberty that set the free world apart from the planned economies of communist nations. Politicians use “free markets” as a stand-in for less government regulation or red tape or taxation.
To interrogate this idea is Jacob Soll, author of “Free Market: The history of an idea.” He wonders why, in the United States, where the concept of free markets are universally loved, we’ve had two government bailouts in less than twenty years and whether our understanding of the term needs reappraisal. We discuss how we got to this current crisis, and how we can find our way out by looking to earlier iterations of free market thought.
Contrary to popular narratives, early market theorists believed that states had an important role in building and maintaining free markets. Roman thinkers such as Cicero believed the Roman Empire built and sustained trade. Throughout the Middle Ages, kingdoms were highly protectionist. But in the eighteenth century, thinkers insisted on free markets without state intervention, leading to a tradition of ideological brittleness.
Tracing the intellectual evolution of the free market, Soll argues that we need to go back to the origins of free market ideology to truly understand it—and to develop new economic concepts to face today’s challenges.

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0:00.0

Scott Rankier with another episode of History on Plot.

0:08.6

For centuries, economists and some governments have promoted free markets.

0:13.2

The free market is a concept beloved by many, but defined in incredibly different ways.

0:17.9

Most people use economists Milton Friedman's definition of free market, which is the absence

0:22.0

of any and all government activity in economic affairs.

0:25.4

During the Cold War, politicians champion free markets as a feature of liberty that set

0:29.8

the free world apart from the plain economies of communist nations.

0:33.3

Today's politicians might promise free markets, which could mean less government regulation

0:37.2

or red tape or taxation.

0:39.1

But this term is extremely elastic and has been used in very different ways across the

0:42.8

centuries.

0:43.9

To interrogate this idea as Jacob Saul, author of Free Market, The History of an Idea.

0:48.5

He wonders why, in the United States, where the concept of free markets is universally

0:53.0

loved, we've had two government bailouts in less than 20 years, and whether our understanding

0:57.9

of the term needs re-appraisal.

0:59.9

We discuss how we got to this current crisis and how we can find our way out of it by looking

1:04.1

to earlier versions of free market thought.

1:07.0

Early market theorists believe that states had an important wall to play in building and

1:11.5

maintaining economies.

1:13.1

Roman thinkers such as Cicero believed the Roman Empire built and sustained trade.

1:17.2

Throughout the Middle Ages, kingdoms were incredibly protectionist.

1:20.8

But in the 18th century, thinkers insisted on free markets, without saving orvention, believing

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