Hey everyone, just a warning before we get started.

This episode has some references to sexual violence.

Producer Lane Kaplan Lemonson has a story.

I think I'm one of the only people I know who went to law school to rebel against their parents.

I grew up in a household where my sisters are quite a bit older than I am,

their generation just weren't groomed to be having careers.

In the day, it was thought that if you had a career, you would be odd,

an odd ball that you would not have the chance to have a family,

that those two things were opposed to each other.

But being a little bit rebellious, I decided to go to law school at Berkeley.

It caused a bit of controversy in the home, and so I decided,

well, I'll just pay for it myself.

So I worked as a waitress and got some loans and went to law school.

My name is Victoria Nierse, and I'm a law professor at Georgetown Law Center.

I'm going to Berkeley in the early 80s.

I'd park my little Honda up on the hillside where a lot of the Fratz were,

and I would take out all my heavy law books and people would gear outside the window.

What's a cute girl like you with all those law books?

But I think a lot of us just felt like we were happy to be there, to have the access.

It seemed as if it was just the luckiest possible thing.

So were you interested in studying women's issues?

No. Many of the women that I was working were there.

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