I think of forgiveness not as a one-time event but as an ongoing posture of

live to forgive and as an ongoing posture of not just repenting now, but repenting kind of always when I see

that little part of me, ah, there it is again, I want to take control. I need to remember that I can

control things sometimes, but I need to love people. I can fix things sometimes but I need

to love people, not fix things and fix people. I want to fix things and love people. Well, I want to fix things and love people.

Welcome to the Jesus Calling Podcast.

Today we talk with two guests from different walks of life who share their heart aches and scars

with others so they can be encouraged to find

their way.

Pastor and writer Mark Eaton and country music singer-songwriter Kelsey Lamb.

First up, Mark Eaton has 35-year history in nonprofit and ministry efforts from directing

a wilderness camping program for delinquent youth to consulting and mentoring business leaders to pioneering a regional men's

ministry in the northwest. Mark also tours with his wife, Susie McIntyre

Eaton, who has a thriving music ministry. Mark's road to ministry wasn't easy.

Growing up with a strict father shaped his view of God as a judge and Mark never felt he measured up.

He compensated by achieving in multiple areas all in an attempt

to receive the approval he craved, but there was always a whole in his life, one that needed

to be filled by the love of a father.

Hi, my name is Mark Eaton. I'm a Seattle native, actually north of Seattle in the

great state of Washington and moved to Oklahoma because I was

lucky enough to marry Susie McIntyre. I was born in 1956 in the northwest corner of

the northwest corner of the northwest state of Washington,

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