Hello there, I'm Chuck Todd and this is the Chuck Todd cast.

My guest today is Evan McMullough.

He's an independent candidate for U.S. Senate New Tall, where he's challenging an incumbent

Republican Senator Mike Lee.

In 2016, McMullough was the independent candidate for president in Utah.

There are only two independent senators, Main Dankes King and Vermont's Bernie Sanders.

Both of them caucused with the Democrats in the House.

They were none.

After two former Republicans from Michigan, Justin Amash and Paul Mitchell left the chamber

in 2021.

So with that, we welcome Evan McMullough into the podcast and Evan, we should get started.

What was your number as the presidential candidate in Utah in 2016?

Was it over 20%?

We finished with 21.5% of the award.

At a time, there was a time when we were actually leading in the polls, but 13% of the

electorate then switched over and voted for Donald Trump, even though they preferred us.

We finished with 21.5%.

But that wasn't bad for three months and very little in terms of campaign resources.

How many ballots were you able to get on besides Utah?

Was Utah the only one?

I think my name appeared on 13 states ballots and I was a registered write-in in another 30

or so.

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