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The Documentary Podcast

Europe's Illiberal Democrats: Poland

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2017

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Is Poland sliding towards autocracy, or just on a different democratic path? The government has been accused of a “systemic threat to the rule of law” and of undermining other democratic values which it signed up to when it joined the European Union in 2004. Earlier this year thousands took to the streets to protest over government plans to reform the judiciary. Critics say the independence of the courts is under threat but the governing Law and Justice Party argues it is simply clearing out the old order, left over from Communist times.

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0:00.0

From the BBC World Service, welcome to the latest edition of the documentary podcast.

0:06.2

Every week we bring you a range of stories from our presenters and reporters across the

0:10.5

world. Please do rate the documentary on your podcast app and leave a comment. Let us

0:15.8

know what you think.

0:17.1

A group of Polish schoolchildren are getting a history lesson by a gate. It's gate number

0:26.3

two of the Gedant's shipyard and it was here back in the 1980s that the successful fight

0:32.3

against communism began. The iconic Moustacheoed L'Equilenza co-founded the Solidarity Trade

0:39.2

Union movement here and it was Solidarity's birth which would ultimately lead to the fall

0:44.4

of the Soviet Union.

0:46.9

Now though Poland is accused of backsliding on the very democratic traditions started here

0:52.4

and some say it's even edging towards authoritarianism again. I'm Nemi Grimli and in this edition

0:59.1

of Europe's illiberal democrats here on the BBC World Service, we'll ask whether the

1:04.0

country's hard-won freedoms really are at risk.

1:13.2

You don't have to have been long in Poland to realise it's an incredibly divided country.

1:18.9

I'm currently walking through the wind and rain in central Warsaw alongside a huge demonstration

1:26.4

on women's rights. That's because a year ago the governing law and justice party tried

1:31.4

to bring in a total ban on abortion, including in cases of rape and incest. It was incredibly

1:38.9

controversial and in the end the government backed down but these protesters were worried

1:43.4

that the government might try again.

1:51.6

One of those on the march was Kaya, a big name in Polish pop music and a critic of Poland's

1:57.8

strongly Catholic government. I caught up with her in the lobby of a Warsaw-based radio

2:06.6

station and I began by asking her about the state of free speech in her country. I feel

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