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Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin

Eugene Jarecki

Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin

Rick Rubin

Society & Culture, Arts, Philosophy

4.6908 Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2024

⏱️ 170 minutes

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Summary

Eugene Jarecki is an Emmy and Peabody award-winning director of dramatic and documentary subjects. He has won the Grand Jury Prize at the Sundance Film Festival twice — for Why We Fight in 2005 and The House I Live In in 2012. His other films include the Emmy-Award Winning Reagan, The Trials of Henry Kissinger, Freakonomics, and The Cyclist. In 2010, Jarecki’s online video, Move Your Money, spurred a nationwide initiative to support local banks over larger institutions. As the founder of The Eisenhower Project, Jarecki aims to demystify U.S. foreign and defense policies, a mission furthered by his book The American Way of War. His most recent film, The King—which explores the complex legacy of Elvis Presley against the backdrop of American society—was nominated for a Grammy Award for Best Music film of the Year and 2 News and Documentary Emmys, including Best Documentary. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: Squarespace https://squarespace.com/tetra ------ LMNT Electrolytes https://drinklmnt.com/tetra ------ House of Macadamias https://www.houseofmacadamias.com/tetra

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0:00.0

Tetrogrammaton.

0:03.0

Tetragrammaton.

0:05.0

I'll say without, with no embarrassment, my older brother Andrew was a hero to me.

0:28.4

He was six years older, and he was a theater director, and he was an unbelievably beautiful theater director.

0:34.4

And I was so inspired when I would go to see his plays. I just wanted to be just

0:38.6

like him. So when I got to university, it seemed like a, maybe not a very original choice,

0:44.9

but my godfather, Melvin Van Peebles, who had also inspired Andrew. Melvin had been a theater

0:50.2

maker. He had two huge Broadway shows. And then another in my childhood. I was his little

0:56.5

assistant and I became his stage manager on a Broadway show that Melvin did called Waltz of the

1:01.4

Stork. And prior to that, he had done Ain't Supposed to Die a Natural Death, which is one of the

1:06.0

most anthemic pieces of work about Black America that I've ever encountered. And he did Don't Play Us Cheap,

1:11.8

which was also hugely powerful. And my life was shaped by a theater maker in many ways in

1:17.5

Melvin. And then my brother echoed that and gave it shape in the body of a pudgy white Jewish kid.

1:23.5

Because it was hard to make the leap to be Melvin in a lot of situations. I used to go out with girls and Melvin, I've gone out with a girl or two in my life.

1:32.3

And Melvin at that time would give me kind of like father's son, ladies' advice.

1:37.8

But Melvin, I don't think I can say that.

1:40.6

I mean, I'm not like some super handsome black dude from Chicago.

1:43.8

Like, I don't think that's good.

1:44.8

Trust me, he'd say.

1:46.1

So I'd muster up the courage to say some relatively like kind of bold thing to a woman

1:50.7

and my teens or my, and I'd say something to somebody and wouldn't go over that well.

1:55.8

And I'd go back to Melvin, I'd say, Melvin, that thing blew up in my face.

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