#EU: Is this a Global War? Judy Dempsey, Strategic Europe, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
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#EU: Is this a Global War? Judy Dempsey, Strategic Europe, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBSI and the world. I'm John Bachelot. |
| 0:07.5 | So Judy Demsie, the editor-in-chief of Strategic Europe for the Carnegie Endowment for International |
| 0:12.3 | Peace. She's in Berlin and asking her colleagues this very difficult question. Is Russia's |
| 0:19.6 | war on Ukraine a global war? The responses are revelatory to me sitting here in the East |
| 0:26.6 | Coast of the United States assuming that everybody pays attention when the US gets involved. |
| 0:32.0 | But that is not necessarily the case through history. And certainly right now there are |
| 0:37.0 | voices that, well, they raise good points that we don't hear in the political conversation |
| 0:42.8 | in Washington. Judy, I especially embrace the remark by your lead correspondent, Thorsten |
| 0:48.9 | Banner, co-founder, director of the Global Public Policy Institute. He says, very bluntly, |
| 0:56.2 | the US has lost credibility as a leader, especially to the global South. And other correspondents |
| 1:03.1 | mention why that is true. But right now I just want to focus on that. It is one explanation |
| 1:11.5 | for why there are states that are sympathetic to Russia's statement of the war and have |
| 1:16.7 | not, although they may have voted to sanction Russia and the UN General Assembly, they |
| 1:22.4 | are not participating in sanctions. There are other voices in the Global South that not |
| 1:27.1 | only didn't vote sanctions, but also are right now entertaining Russian counselors. So we |
| 1:34.5 | come back to the question, is this a global war? According to Mr. Banner, it is not. Is |
| 1:40.8 | that an opinion that is embraced in Germany? In Germany, the idea of war scares the population. |
| 1:51.8 | And for this to be a global war would be quite shocking because this still is generation |
| 1:59.8 | who remembers the second world war and the idea of war is so frightening to Germany, particularly. |
| 2:09.9 | And the whole reason for this question was to find out, you know, what do other countries |
| 2:15.9 | outside you really think? And for the Germans, it's not a global war and it don't want to |
| 2:22.0 | be a global war. For others, it is, but on very different levels as our readers would |
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