I'm John Bachelors with my colleague Judy Dempsey of Strategic Europe.

She's the editor-in-chief. She's in Berlin, and she helps me understand the 27 nations that are the European Union.

This is sometimes overlap with NATO but not entirely.

The European Union has had some bad times and reading through an essay that I recommend by Roosevelt for in Strategic Europe,

I understand it has had nothing a series of Anas Harabilius this last decade, there was Brexit, there was all of the troubles of the migration drama of 2015 into Germany and into all the other states.

But since then we've had the war in Ukraine and the dislocation of the pandemic

again and again and again blows to individual countries but the European Union

and its foreign policy there's the question not does it have one but is it going to write itself or does it remain a prisoner of dissenters?

The new foreign minister, in effect, of the European Union, Nakales of Estonia, who is a forthright

and extremely clear speaking Hawk on when it comes to Russia.

I note that the European Union itself at this point has no clear

certain policy that I could say quickly is the attitude towards the Ukraine

war.

Judy, this can be seen as an advantage that everybody has an opinion and you come together to argue or debate the matter.

Is that understood today as an advantage or does everyone point

fingers at the other dissenters? We've had enough dissent in the European Union

ever since they tried to put a very strong European foreign

policy together in the beginning of the Yugoslav Wars of the early 1990s.

And since then, European foreign policy has been divided, has been disunited, it's

cantankerous, they don't agree and and even to this day with what's happening in

our neighbor Ukraine they still don't share a common perception.

Yes, they've agreed on the sanctions, but the individual member states, whether it's Slovakia,

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