I'm John Bachelor with Judy Dempsey, my colleague, she's the editor-in-chief of Strategic Europe.

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The question Judy asks of her colleagues, can Europe meet Ukraine's

military needs? I'm particularly taken by the response from Stephanie Bst, Strategic Advisor,

former NATO Deputy Assistant Secretary General.

Judy, Ms Bapst is very clear cut

that Europe needs a strategy toward Moscow and it needs it now.

Not even looking at the US and we have political complications of plenty here,

but what does that strategy look like? Why isn't it already in place?

It isn't in place because we're not thinking of the day after Germany and France are not looking at the idea of how to deal with Russia. I think the war has complicated so much, but Stephanie Babs' terrific answer lays it out, you know? We've had this

ball going on now for two years and it's really time to think strategically

about how we're going to deal with Russia on the one hand and Ukraine

on the other militarily, financially, economically, socially, and there isn't that

thinking out there at the moment on what sort of strategy we're going to have for Russia.

It cannot be the old one of trade and back to the old days.

No, Stephanie Babs is laying it out clearly. Start thinking very quickly about

what we're going to deal with Russia. In other words, for rebalance of the century we need an

aus politique that confronts the fact that Russia's a predator and now

Ms Bap's second response is they need a process for long-term military aid to keep quite separate, I believe, from the rebuilding.

That is in place. I begin to wonder what is in place, Judy.

This seems like a lot of spontaneous policy and sort of just in time, not big thinking.

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