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In fact, Infertility is a difficulty, no matter how you cut it, and sometimes it only intensifies the desire to have children. The sad thing is that the in vitro fertilization industry is more than happy to capitalize, I mean literally,

financially capitalize on that desire and on the pain of infertility, there are pro-life

alternatives. Welcome back to Issues, Cedar. I'm Todd Wilkin, joining us to discuss those

alternatives to IVF. Cheney Gully. Cheney has spent more than a decade in

pro-life pro-woman work. She's author of a recent column for the Federalist titled 14 pro-life

alternatives to IVF for infertile couples who desire children. Cheney, welcome.

Thank you, Todd. Happy to be here. You speak from some experience. Talk about the difficulties of infertility.

Well, infertility is a heavy cross, a heavy suffering where there's just that natural desire

to bear a child with the person that you love.

My husband, Patrick, and I have been married for almost five years, and we've always wanted children.

We took a vow at our wedding to be open to children, and that's had to look differently than we thought it would originally look.

And though we are still always praying and hoping for the miracle of biological children. We have started the domestic infant

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