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🗓️ 18 June 2024
⏱️ 51 minutes
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In this episode, David Hoffman is joined by Matthew Sigel, Head of Digital Assets Research at VanEck, to unpack VanEck's groundbreaking ETH 2030 report. They discuss the $154,000 bull case, $22,000 base case, and $340 bear case for Ethereum, and the factors behind these predictions.
Matthew dives deep into the role of ETH ETFs and shares insights into ETH's evolving narrative in institutional portfolios. He also provides interesting analogies and comparisons between ETH and Web 2.0, explaining how VanEck will help traditional investors understand and invest in ETH using these narratives and real market data.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
7:16 VanEck Vibe Check ?
8:11 VanEck ETH 2030 Price Prediction Report
12:31 Last Year’s Report vs. Present Report
15:10 Ethereum Narrative For Retail
19:14 Pitching ETH To Customers
25:15 Parameters For Bear, Base & Bull?
28:49 What If ETH Reaches $154,000
32:31 ETH’s Most Bearish & Bullish Scenarios
33:40 Solana’s MEV vs. ETH’s MEV
41:28 BTC & ETH Allocation In Portfolio
45:59 Can Data Help Matthew Convince Customers?
49:30 $15B In ETF Assets
50:30 Closing & Disclosures
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RESOURCES:
Matthew Sigel
https://x.com/matthew_sigel
VanEck
https://www.vaneck.com/us/en/
https://www.vaneck.com/us/en/blogs/digital-assets/matthew-sigel-eth-2030-price-target/
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0:00.0 | Everyone who owns a 60-40 portfolio has exposure to Meta and that stock fell 80% peak to trough in the bare market which was like |
0:09.7 | more than Bitcoin and you know in our view view, if we are correct that Ethereum is the open source app store, then it is going |
0:17.0 | to directly attack the margins of a lot of these centralized Web2 companies through a combination of technological innovation and a different |
0:27.3 | regulatory regime. Bankless Nation, can Eath get to $154,000 by 2030? |
0:41.1 | That is the number for the Bullcase for Eath that is in Van Xck's Eath 2030 price target, an optimal portfolio allocations report, |
0:49.2 | which Vanneck is sending around to all of its Wall Street and banking clients in order to inform the world of |
0:54.2 | TradFi why it's beneficial to include not just Bitcoin but specifically also |
0:58.2 | Eath into their typical investment portfolio. Now in addition to the |
1:02.4 | 154,000 bullish scenario for E there's also the 22,000 base case and the |
1:08.3 | 340 dollar bear case for Eath. |
1:11.6 | I ask Matthew on the show to unpack the calculus behind each of these scenarios. |
1:15.2 | What does the theorem need to do if it wants to earn that bulkcase valuation? What are the factors that go into these numbers and also what about the macro markets how are they factored in and also lastly why it's rational according to Van Eck for all 6040 traditional portfolio investors to include up to 6% of their portfolio in a 50-50 mix of |
1:37.6 | Bitcoin and Eath now that these things are available to them in their ETFT.F. form. |
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