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On Being with Krista Tippett

Esther Perel – The Erotic Is an Antidote to Death

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Society, Spirituality, Society & Culture, Sociology, Culture, Science, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Social Sciences, On Being, Arts

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

The psychotherapist Esther Perel has changed our discourse about sexuality and coupledom with her TED talks, her books, and her podcast, Where Should We Begin? Episode after episode lays bare the theater of relationship, which is also the drama of being human. Her insights speak to the flip side of social isolation — the intense experience many have now had of togetherness. And her deep understanding of “erotic intelligence” feels so interesting as we grapple with emergent dynamics of the human condition writ large — coupled or not, and both intimate and societal.

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On being is brought to you by the John Templeton Foundation, harnessing the power of the sciences

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to explore the deepest and most perplexing questions facing humankind.

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Learn about the winner of this year's Templeton prize, Dr. Jane Goodall, whose discoveries

0:16.1

changed our understanding of humanity's role in an interconnected world at Templeton.org.

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The psychotherapist, Esther Perrell, has changed our discourse about sexuality and

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coupled them with her TED Talks, her books, and her podcast, Where Should We Begin?

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Episode after episode, Les Bear, the Theatre of Relationship, which is also the drama of being

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human. And now, in the post-2020 world, she's launching a game to catalyze at home her kind of

0:49.2

conversation. It's also called Where Should We Begin? The singular insights in the fascinating

0:55.4

conversation I had with Esther in 2019 speak to the flip side of social isolation.

1:02.6

The incomparably intense experience many have now had of togetherness. And her deep understanding

1:10.0

of erotic intelligence feels so interesting as we grapple with emergent dynamics of the human

1:16.5

condition writ large, coupled or not, and both intimate and societal. My book and my work is about

1:25.4

eroticism. It is about how people connect to this quality of the liveliness of vibrancy,

1:31.1

of vitality, of renewal. And that is way beyond the description of sexuality. And it is mystical.

1:38.8

It is actually a spiritual mystical experience of life. It is a transcendent experience of life

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because it is an act of de-imagination. I'm just a tip it and this is on being.

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Esther Perel was a therapist for 20 years before she began to write about sexuality.

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She'd studied Jewish identity in different national contexts and focused on relationships

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between different minority groups in the US, the Middle East, and Eastern Europe. She grew up

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speaking multiple languages at home, above her family clothing shop in Antwerp and Belgium,

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a child of Polish holocaust survivors. Both of her parents were the only people left of their

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