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Moms don't have time to read books.

I am also a newly minted USA Today bestselling author of the novel, Blank.

I've created a whole community of book lovers around this podcast, a publishing company,

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Learn more at Zivimedia.com, or follow me on social at Zibby Owens or join the community at Zibby Readers. Estella Rasmus is the author of writing that gets noticed, find your voice, become a better storyteller, and get published. Estelle is actually moderating a panel on the Zubievers tour for the women's media group. Estelle is an

award-winning journalist, a professor of writing at New York University, a magazine editor, an in-demand

public speaker, and the host of the freelance writing direct podcast. Her articles for the New York

Times and The Washington Post

have gone globally viral. She's appeared on Good Morning America and has had her articles discussed

on The View. She has also taught, coached, and mentored many writers who have gone on to be widely

published. She received a 2023 NYU School of Professional Studies Teaching Excellence Award,

a 2023 Zimmy Award naming, writing that

gets noticed, the best book for the writer. Thank you very much. She is also an American

Society of Journalists and Authors Award winner and was a cast member in the inaugural New York

City production of the Listen to Your Mother's Storytelling Show. Find her at Estelle S. Erasmus. If you sign up for her newsletter, you can get a free pitching guide. And on social media at Estelle S. Erasmus on TikTok, Instagram X and Threads. Welcome, Estelle. Thank you so much for coming on moms. Don't have time to read books to discuss writing that gets noticed. Find your voice, become a better storyteller. Get published. Thanks so much, Sippy. It's great to be here.

I love that you have a whole section in your book about interviewing, and here I am interviewing you. So you can take apart my strategy, whatever you need to do. You're the expert here.

I think you're an expert in Javier because I've listened to enough of your programs to know that.

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