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The Megyn Kelly Show

Establishment Meltdown Over RFK, New Lisa Cook Questions, and Being a "Lion" Instead of a "Scavenger," with Ben Shapiro

The Megyn Kelly Show

SiriusXM

Society & Culture, News Commentary, News

4.438.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2025

⏱️ 102 minutes

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Summary

Megyn Kelly is joined by Ben Shapiro, author of "Lions and Scavengers," to talk about the scientific establishment melting down over RFK's work at the HHS and his CDC firing, how the scientific elite lost their credibility during the COVID pandemic, new allegations about Lisa Cook, reporting casting doubt about her college and financial credentials, the coziness of Modi, Putin and Xi, what it means for America and how Trump should handle the moment, what it means to be a "lion" and a "scavenger," why it's important to think like a builder and impart that philosophy on your children, the "scavengers" in America today like Zohran Mamdani, the failures and lies of the establishment and the resulting public distrust, the distinction between conspiracies and conspiracy theories, whether Gov. Wes Moore is an actual 2028 Democratic contender, the controversy over his Bronze Star claims, the media actually hammering him on the issue, and more. More from Shapiro- https://www.amazon.com/Lions-Scavengers-Story-America-Critics/dp/1668097885 Grand Canyon University: https://GCU.edu PrizePicks: Download the PrizePicks app today and use code MEGYN to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/MEGYN Just Thrive: Visit https://justthrivehealth.com/discount/Megyn and use code MEGYN to save 20% sitewide Done with Debt: https://www.DoneWithDebt.com & tell them Megyn Kelly sent you!

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

0:12.2

Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly show. Hope you had a great Labor Day weekend. I don't know. It's like bittersweet. Summer's over. Had such a nice summer this year. But also, I don't know about you. I'm actually, I was looking forward to going back to school with the kids so that I could see them again. My kids just scattered everywhere. The whole summer long. I was like, where, where'd they go? Now I think I'm going to see more of them in the fall than I did this summer. It's a blessing for them to have such fun. And, you know, look, even though September is the time when all the trees start to die and we're headed toward winter, it's always felt like a time of renewal, hasn't it? Because it's like the new school year. Sometimes when you start a new job, it tends to happen. I think for a lot of people in the fall. It's all possibilities.

0:55.0

I'm already in my fall clothing, so we're off to the races. We're steps away from pumpkin

0:59.6

spice lattes. Life is good. Not for Lisa Cook, but for us, she's the Federal Reserve

1:05.9

overseer whose scandal is only growing. Lisa, you're going to have to give it up. Girl,

1:29.0

you're going to have to give it up because you appear to have been caught multiple times on the alleged mortgage fraud. And she's not even denying it. She's really just kind of having her surrogates play the race card. I think she's going, and I think Trump is within inches of taking over basically effective control of the Fed. but it's really, I mean, yes, it is about that.

1:30.9

But for me, it's about her.

1:34.7

You can't just DEI your way into these powerful positions.

1:39.7

And then when you're caught, try to fall back in your qualifications, which are non-existent.

1:41.0

We're going to get into that today.

1:46.0

So more on her, because there's more problems around here, including we're learning.

1:50.6

There are big questions about how she got tenure at Michigan State University.

1:51.7

Shocked, shocked.

1:56.3

Plus, the left is freaking out over Trump and RFKJ's reforms at the CDC.

2:00.6

They really are actually playing the science and expert cards on us.

2:04.8

But science, but experts, they don't understand the right half of the country at all.

2:09.1

And Maryland's governor is having a great time while people in Baltimore are getting shot,

2:14.5

while he's over at George Clooney's place in Italy, having a grand old time.

2:23.0

Remember when like Ted Cruz wasn't allowed to go out of the country for 24 hours when there was a weather crisis down in Texas? But Westmore, I mean, people can literally be dying in his state and he can be on Clooney's yacht and he's not going to get the leftist

2:27.6

treatment of what a bad person he is. Here now to react for the full show so excited. We've never done

2:32.8

this before. I've never done in person either me on his show or him on my show is Ben Shapiro. He's the co-founder of the Daily Wire, host of the Ben Shapiro show, an author of the new book, Lions and Scavengers, the True History of America, which is out today. Get your copy now. We've to make sure he winds up number one. He will,

2:51.3

but we have to make sure of it on the New York Times bestseller list because they don't let

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