All right, welcome on to ESPN insiders, Mike Schmitz. We've been enjoying his coverage all year.

Latest mock draft is now out on ESPN.com. And for now the seventh year, I believe.

I can't believe it's been that long. Pleasure to have you here. Mike, how's it going?

I'm good. Nate, thanks for having me. What was our first one? What draft?

2015. 2015. Wow. Yeah. We're getting old, man.

Well, yeah, that's that was the Mario, Hizone, Jalil, Okafor, for Zingas.

I'd like to think I've gotten out of this since then. Yeah, I hope old takes exposed.

Doesn't find that episode or I might be in trouble.

Hey, I mean, all we have to do is better than the teams do, which, you know, sometimes that's easier than other times.

We all have our good years and our badgers, but hopefully this will be a good year for us.

So let's get started here at the top. Listeners know that I go pretty in depth.

Some of the top prospects. I've only made it through the top six.

So this year, obviously, this is your full-time jobs you've gone further.

But I'd like to really get into some of the top guys with you.

And I think Kate Cunningham is a really interesting one to me.

And I know you recently did a piece breaking down some of his moves and what makes him so special.

Like, is this guy just, you know, kind of a run of the middle number one pick?

Are we talking about a guy who's really, you know, at the top as far as some of the best number one picks in the last 10 years?

Yeah, I think he's toward the middle if not toward the top, you know, and at least at the time of when we, you know,

like if you look at what we thought of them heading into the draft, right?

Like, obviously it's different with, you know, certain guys didn't go number one.

But I think you look at, you know, Zion, Anthony Davis, maybe Kyrie Irving, but I think he's right there after after some of those guys.

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