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Today we're talking about Cold War espionage, East Germany and Berlin with SpyBerry host Shane Whaley.

Shane runs the SpyBerry podcast at SpyBri.com. Their goal is to

encourage people to read new spy novels, revisit an old espionage classic and discuss them with

their community of like-minded spy fans. It's great fun and if you like spy books I highly recommend his podcast.

So settle in for a wide ranging and hopefully interesting conversation with my good friend

Shane Whaley. Hi Shane. How are you? Fantastic. Great to speak to you, Ian. It's been a few months. It has indeed.

It's flown by, but loving the SpyBerry podcast. Thank you. It's very kind. Loveing doing it.

Speak to some fantastic people and, you know, it's devastating my bank account, my bank balance

with all the book recommendations, but there's worse ways to

spend one's money, right?

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Well, you know, for those people that aren't familiar with SpyBridge, can you just tell us a

little bit about it?

Absolutely.

SpyBory is a spy podcast for fans of spy books and spy movies, both fact and fiction. We interview spy authors,

intelligence experts, and spy fans. Our goal is to encourage people to read new spy novels

or maybe revisit an old espionage classic and discuss them with our community of like-minded

spy fans. Now, the genesis of the podcast was, I was boring my friends and family to tears when I

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