Escaping NXIVM Introduces: Agent Pale Horse

Escaping NXIVM

CBC

True Crime

4.7 • 665 Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

FBI undercover agent Scott Payne’s job was to infiltrate the most dangerous gangs of our times: outlaw bikers, drug cartels and the international neo-Nazi networks hellbent on inciting a race war.

He was taking down these groups from within. And Scott was good at it — people confided in him their most audacious plans for mass violence and domestic terrorism.

In the second season of White Hot Hate, host Michelle Shephard gives you an unvarnished view of a life undercover. Because after a 28-year-long career pretending to be somebody else, Agent Payne is ready to tell his side of the story.

This series was produced alongside a book co-written by Scott Payne and Michelle Shephard titled Code Name: Pale Horse: How I Went Undercover to Expose America's Nazis.

More episodes of White Hot Hate: Agent Pale Horse are available at: https://link.mgln.ai/NZJbj1

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0:00.0	Other People's Problems was the first podcast to take you inside real-life therapy sessions.
0:05.8	I'm Dr. Hilary McBride, and again, we're doing something new.
0:09.4	The ketamine really broke down a lot of my barriers.
0:14.1	This work has this sort of immediate transformational effect.
0:19.7	Therapy using psychedelics is the new frontier in mental health.
0:23.5	Come along for the trip.
0:25.2	Other people's problems, season five.
0:27.5	Available now.
0:31.0	This is a CBC podcast.
0:36.4	FBI Special Agent Scott Payne went undercover to infiltrate the most dangerous gangs of our times,
0:44.3	outlaw bikers, drug cartels, and an international neo-Nazi network that wants to start a race war.
0:52.6	I'm Michelle Shepard, and an Agent Pale Horse, the second season of CBC's White Hot Hate,
0:59.1	you'll hear an unvarnished view of what it looks like from the inside.
1:04.6	What's it like to live a lie your whole life in order to expose a truth?
1:10.3	To join the KKK one month and then be a hired hitman
1:14.3	the next. To become friends with a biker, you're trying to jail for life. To almost lose your job,
1:22.6	your marriage, and your mind. After a 28-year-long career pretending to be someone else, Scott Payne is ready to tell his own story.
1:32.1	Now, here's the first episode of Agent Pale Horse.
1:43.0	The following episode contains strong language and descriptions of violence.
1:48.0	Please take care when listening.
1:51.9	Okay.
1:53.4	So let me start with the bass.
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