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What is going on, beautiful folks?

Welcome to another episode of the Mental Healingness podcast with your favorite.

Diagnosed artist is me, Mr. Lee Hammack, Mental Hills and myself.

Today, we're talking about cult dynamics, y'all, and I have a very, very special guest for y'all. We have a former sports broadcaster and best-selling author of Stop the Tallman, Save the Tiger, Mr. Peter Young. What's going on? Peter, are you doing today? Lee, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on your podcast. Thanks for coming on.

I'm super excited to talk to you today. So just tell the folks a little bit about yourself. So I always give the Reader's Digest version. I grew up in New Jersey was going to be the next Larry Bird, and that didn't happen. So then I got into coaching and I was going to be the next Mike Shoshchewski, John Wooden, and that didn't happen. And then I got into sports broadcasting and I was going to be the next Bob Costas. And that didn't happen. And then I unwitting got sucked into a cult when I married into it and kind of destroyed my marriage, my family. But I recovered and wrote a book. It is an Amazon bestseller. So I'm not trying to be the next Louis Lomor or John Steinbeck or John Grisham. Just finally Lee trying to be the best version of me, Peter Young. That's great. That's great to hear. I know you said trying to be Larry Bird and stuff like that. I thought it was funny because I heard that if one thing fails, try something else, right? This doesn't work. I'll try something else. And it's always a good mindset to have though. Like, so one thing doesn't work, there's always other things to pursue. And I'm glad you end up, you know, do you feel like you found your calling with the writing? Oh, I do. Yeah. So, you know, I kind of consider myself a storyteller. And that's what a good sports broadcaster will do. He doesn't kind of dominate the game, but he tells the story of the game and the athletes. And so that's what I do as a writer. I'm a storyteller trying to become a better writer. Okay. That's amazing right there. So you said you've married the love of your life and it somehow wounded you up in a cult.

How do we get there?

Yeah, good question.

So I called her page in my book.

Met her back in the fall of 1996, a little old Pocatello, Idaho.

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