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Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

Errol Morris

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

NPR

Society & Culture

4.52.6K Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2021

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Documentary filmmaker Errol Morris has a very unique style of storytelling. Part of his creative process includes the use of a device he invented called a "Interrotron." It allows the subjects of his films to look at him, the interviewer, while also looking straight into the camera, creating the sense that his subjects are addressing the viewer directly. He's been lauded among the film community as a visionary and his film debut, 1978's Gates of Heaven is required viewing in film schools across the country. Since then, he's made The Thin Blue Line, The Fog of War and the 2014 Netflix series Wormwood. Revisit our 2014 conversation with the acclaimed director on why Wormwood is like an "Everything bagel," capturing the art of the story and how the mid 20th century inspires his obsession with retrospective filmmaking.

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Bullseye with Jesse Thorn is a production of MaximumFun.org and is distributed by NPR.

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It's Bullseye, I'm Jesse Thorn.

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Aral Morris is one of my favorite filmmakers. He's the kind of director that gets shown

0:27.5

in film schools all the time. He's contributed that much to the field of documentary making.

0:34.5

If you've actually seen his movies, Gates of Heaven, a fast-cheap and out of control,

0:39.4

or even the short documentaries that he made for ESPN, they are entertaining and fascinating

0:46.4

and exceptionally watchable, not like impenetrable or boring art house films. Morris has a way

0:54.9

of painting these portraits of people nuanced and funny, tragic, fascinating. His newest

1:01.6

movie, My Psychedelic Love Story, tells the tale of LSD advocate Timothy Leary's longtime

1:08.2

partner, Joanna Harcourt-Smith. She was an author, an activist, and according to Aral,

1:15.7

maybe a CIA plant. That's classic Aral Morris material, folks. When I talked with him

1:21.8

in 2018, he just released something really interesting, a Netflix mini-series called

1:27.1

Wormwood. It was a bit of a departure for Aral. First, he set aside his signature in

1:32.6

Terratron, which is an elaborate device that lets his subjects make eye contact with him,

1:38.0

while also making eye contact with the viewer. Instead of using the Terratron, he's conducting

1:45.2

interviews on camera. He also draws on the work of actors to tell the story for much

1:50.2

of the film as well. The movie is classic Morris in a lot of ways. It focuses on Frank Olson,

1:58.3

a former CIA biochemist who died mysteriously decades ago, and his son, Eric, who's worked

2:04.4

for years to uncover the truth about his life and death. Let's take a listen to a little

2:09.6

bit from Wormwood. In this scene, Eric Olson is talking about reading the results of a

2:13.9

1975 government investigation into his father's death. When the story came out in the Rockefeller

2:21.6

Commission report, I get this phone call from my brother-in-law. You should read The

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