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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy

Ernie Garcia - Leading Through Crisis - [Invest Like the Best, EP.396]

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy

Colossus

Investing, Business, Technology

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2024

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

My guest today is Ernie Garcia. Ernie is the co-founder and CEO of Carvana. Ernie joined me on Founder’s Field Guide in 2021 and despite all that the business has gone through since that conversation, you’ll hear how he has the exact same demeanor and crystal clear vision for the business and its operations today. Carvana is one of the most remarkable business turnaround stories in recent history, and Ernie gives us a raw and candid explanation of navigating through a 99% stock price decline and ultimately emerging stronger on the other side. I don’t know many leaders who could survive this. He credits his team of A players again and again for successfully weathering the storm and maintaining morale. We discuss leading through crisis, building for the long term, and a focus on ruthless prioritization and efficiency gains. Please enjoy my conversation with Ernie Garcia.  Check out our new print publication Colossus Review. My guests today For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Ramp. Ramp’s mission is to help companies manage their spend in a way that reduces expenses and frees up time for teams to work on more valuable projects. Ramp is the fastest growing FinTech company in history and it’s backed by more of my favorite past guests (at least 16 of them!) than probably any other company I’m aware of. It’s also notable that many best-in-class businesses use Ramp—companies like Airbnb, Anduril, and Shopify, as well as investors like Sequoia Capital and Vista Equity. They use Ramp to manage their spending, automate tedious financial processes, and reinvest saved dollars and hours into growth. At Colossus and Positive Sum, we use Ramp for exactly the same reason. Go to Ramp.com/invest to sign up for free and get a $250 welcome bonus. — This episode is brought to you by Tegus, where we're changing the game in investment research. Step away from outdated, inefficient methods and into the future with our platform, proudly hosting over 100,000 transcripts – with over 25,000 transcripts added just this year alone. Our platform grows eight times faster and adds twice as much monthly content as our competitors, putting us at the forefront of the industry. Plus, with 75% of private market transcripts available exclusively on Tegus, we offer insights you simply can't find elsewhere. See the difference a vast, quality-driven transcript library makes. Unlock your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best (00:06:00) Carvana's Journey (00:07:38) Facing the COVID-19 Challenge (00:08:12) The Rise and Fall: Carvana's Rollercoaster (00:10:05) Leadership and Resilience in Tough Times (00:14:32) Handling Drawdowns and Communication (00:16:58) Maintaining Calm and Leadership (00:18:19) The True Story of Carvana's Journey (00:20:36) Navigating Market Challenges (00:23:40) Learning to Say No (00:30:35) Project Management and Accountability (00:34:22) The Importance of Player-Coach Leadership (00:35:53) The Importance of Vertical Integration (00:40:43) Customer Experience and Vertical Integration (00:41:41) Navigating Economic Variables (00:43:52) Building Resilience in Business (00:45:27) Balancing Personal and Professional Life (00:48:57) Efficiency and Growth in Carvana (00:59:02) Insights on Investors and Entrepreneurship (01:02:42) Lessons from Family and Origins of Carvana (01:11:22) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Done For Ernie

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0:00.0

I'm excited to announce something new from Colossus, the first issue of Colossus Review,

0:04.9

a quarterly print publication with accompanying digital and audio content.

0:08.9

The review will be our deepest explorations of people, firms, and ideas in business and

0:13.6

investing.

0:14.5

We're only printing 1,000 copies of this first issue and have already sold most of them.

0:19.2

In the first issue, we profile and interview Graham Duncan,

0:21.6

share research on investing in space, math, the technology frontier, and a lot more. You can learn more at join colossus.com

0:29.1

slash review or by clicking the link in the show notes. Two fun facts about our newest sponsorship

0:35.9

partner, Ramp. First, they are the fastest growing fintech company in history, reaching a level of revenue

0:41.3

in five years that I can't quote exactly, but is eyebrow raising.

0:45.1

Second, they are backed by more of my favorite past guests, at least 16 of them when I counted,

0:50.4

than probably any other company that I'm aware of, a list that includes Ravi Gupta,

0:54.0

at Sequoia,

0:54.6

Josh Kushner at Thrive, Keith Rabe, a Founders Fund, and Coastal Ventures, Patrick and John Collison,

0:59.2

Michael Ovitz, Brad Gersner, the list goes on and on. These facts demand the question,

1:03.4

why? Having been personally obsessed with the great businesses through history, one clear lesson

1:07.9

is that the best of them are run by disciplined operators. These operators

1:11.4

manage costs with incredible detail and they are constantly thinking about how they can

1:15.4

reinvest every dollar and every hour back into their business. This is RAMP's mission to help

1:20.0

companies manage their spend in a way that reduces expenses and frees up time for teams to work

1:24.8

on more valuable projects. First, on expenses, the average American business

1:28.8

has a profit margin of 7.7%. This means saving 1% on costs is the equivalent of making 13% more

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