From WNYC Studios, it's Brian Lair, a daily politics podcast.

It's Tuesday, May 10th.

We're all talking, of course, about the Supreme Court, apparently poised to overturn Roe

v. Wade.

People are calling it the first time the

court took away a constitutional right. But remember this. It was nine years ago this summer that the

Supreme Court, with most of the same members, gutted the Voting Rights Act. And remember the name of that

case, because we're about to talk to the defendant. It was called

Shelby County versus Holder. Today the United States Supreme Court announced its decision

in the case of Shelby County v. Holder and invalidated an essential part of the Voting

Rights Act, a cornerstone of American Civil Rights Law. Now, like many others

across the country, I am deeply disappointed, deeply disappointed with the Court's decision

in this matter. This decision represents a serious setback for voting rights and has the potential

to negatively affect millions of Americans across the country.

So that was former U.S. Attorney General, Eric Holder, just after that Supreme Court ruling, June 25, 2013.

Eric Holder joins me now, along with Sam Copleman.

They are co-authors of a new book called Our Unfinished March,

The Violent Past and Imperaled Future of the Vote, A History, a Crisis, A Plan.

Heads up guests, I will also ask if you have a plan for abortion rights, too.

These days, Eric Holder is chairman of the National Democratic Redistricting Committee.

Attorney General, it's so great to have you on the show.

Welcome to WNYC. Well, thank you for having me, Brian. And as I listen to that younger Eric Holder,

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