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All The Smoke

Eric Dickerson Exposes NFL’s Double Standard

All The Smoke

The Black Effect and iHeartPodcasts

Basketball, Society & Culture, Sports

4.87.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Eric Dickerson pulled no punches on this one. The iconic NFL running back let it all fly, from addressing his comments on Saquon Barkley nearly breaking his record to exposing the league’s discriminatory insurance policies that most fans have never heard about. Matt and Stak sit down with the Hall of Famer to talk about his legendary career, his battles with the Rams over contracts, and what it was like playing in the NFL during the wild 1980s era of steroids and loaded boxes. Dickerson also opens up about growing up in Texas under Friday night lights, receiving racist hate mail, and the toll football has taken on his health. This one is raw, real, and classic ALL THE SMOKE.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:04.3

Welcome back to All the Smoke.

0:06.0

Man, we got someone.

0:06.9

I'm really excited about this because I grew up a 49er fan.

0:11.0

My dad grew up a Ram fan, and this was the guy on the Rams.

0:15.8

They had the same hair, too, Jack, and they both bald.

0:18.2

And they both bald now, Jack, so I don't know if that has anything that has anything to do it, but six-time pro bowler, five-time first-team all-pro, player of the year in 86, offensive rookie in 83, single-season record holder for 2,105 yards. And he was a big back, Jack, six, three, two, 20. A real one. Welcome to the show, the legendary Eric Dickerson. Yes, sir. Man, thank you. I'm excited. I had to tell my dad too much if he catches a show, he catches the show. But Mike Tyson and Eric Dickerson are here two favorite people, so I told him and he couldn't believe it. So shout out to Pops. And again, man, thank you for being here. I'll tell you pops and say hello.

0:55.0

Definitely, definitely, definitely.

0:56.0

How's life? I know you play a lot of golf. What's going on with you these days? Look good, man. Man, I'm trying to maintain. But it's tough when you get old. I'm telling you, bro. Y'all will find out one day. Yeah. You're on the way. It's good. I mean, I just came over here from a thing I do for the Rams with some kids, a little football camp. I do a radio show during the football season. Work for the team. But, you know, life is good. I mean, especially still living in LA after all these years. Mm-hmm. Last season, Sequan Barkley, you had made some comments. Some people say, hey, it's just a competitor in you.

1:28.7

Some people took it a different way.

1:30.2

He was on the heels of the rushing record and you had some thoughts on it.

1:35.1

As you kind of sit here today, removed from the situation, how do you look back on that experience?

1:40.4

It's funny.

1:41.8

People making these assumptions and saying things that I didn't say. I saw Shady McCoy said something I did not say. Pac-Man Jones said something I did not say. Matter of fact, I kind of, you know, I don't get on social media a lot, but I made a comment about it. And I saw Shady at the Super Bowl and I said, man, let me explain something. First of all, records are records. And I don't think anybody wants their record broke. I said, I would never hate on another running back. That's just not me. I mean, I broke the record in 1984. OJ did it in 73. He did in 14 games. I did it in 15 games, one extra game. And I've always said that.

2:17.7

I always give him that acknowledgement because he's my favorite player.

2:21.1

Okay.

2:21.8

That's why I played the position of running back. And I said, if you break the record, he breaks it. Do I want him to break it? No. I mean, I'm not, excuse me, I'm not no bitch. Right. I'm not the kind of guy that's going to go like, oh, yeah, when I'm going to be doing chili.

2:33.0

Don't break the record.

2:34.0

I said, I've always said this.

2:35.6

If somebody breaks my record,'m going to be doing chili. Don't break the record. I said, I've always said this.

2:35.7

If somebody breaks my record, I want to be my son. Okay. That's it. And if somebody breaks it, I ain't going to lose no sleepover. I mean, I mean, I said, it was like petty stuff. Like, I'm hating on it. I'm like, I'm not hating. I'm pulling for him because when he got to the Johns, never got to the Giants, and I kept saying,

2:52.8

this boy never reached his potential level. I'm like, I'm not hating. I'm pulling for him because when he got to the Johns, never got to the Johns,

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