Hello and welcome to another special bonus episode of the new abnormal. We thank you so much for being here.

Today we're lucky enough to be joined by David Shore, who is the head of data science at Open Labs R&D

and an Obama campaign veteran. And he's going to talk to us all about what he's been seeing for

the upcoming elections. One thing before we get started, if you want an alert when each bonus

episode from the new abnormal drops, you could subscribe in your member dashboard. Head to the

dailybeast.com slash membership slash newsletters to sign up for email alerts. Welcome back to the

new abnormal David Shore. Hey, since you've been here last time, you've become incredibly famous.

Oh, thank you. That's very nice. Or is it? It seems to me, even though we're still a year plus

away from the midterms, that we have like Steve Bannon steering the ship on this sort of insane

and critical race theory is going to win Republicans the midterms. What do you think? My personal

take on politics is that the way that you win elections is to talk about popular issues that

people care about using language that people can understand. And I'm personally pretty skeptical

that critical race theory matches that. Something that I think is interesting, there are these

long debates between self-described moderates and self-described liberals about what's

controversial and what's not. And I think that a lot of times we look at things that are

controversial among highly educated liberals to be the same as the things that are highly

controversial among the working class. So one example is in left-wing circles, people talk a lot

about trans rights. And a lot of people were really afraid that trans rights could be this new wedge

issue that Republicans could use to mobilize people. But the best data we have on that is that

there is a Democratic governor in North Carolina right now because of what you know who won in a state

that Trump won because of what we already did. I think Republicans, when they look at wedge issues,

it's important to focus on issues that people actually care about. I don't think that there's this

...