All right, Alexander, let's talk about a possible meeting between Erdogan and Putin.

And this follows on the prisoner release, the commander, Azov prisoner release from Erdogan,

which took place about a month ago, a month and a half ago.

And now we have, and then Erdogan went to Vilnius, and according to various Western media outlets,

Biden promised him IMF money.

Erdogan wanted F-16, one of the F-16 deal reinstated. And now we have the conclusion

to all of this, all of this back and forth between Turkey, NATO, Turkey, the U.S., Erdogan, Biden.

We now have Erdogan going back to Putin and requesting a meeting. What is going on here?

So they had a telephone call. And the Russian readout actually, when you read it, it's actually

quite stiff. So it wasn't a particularly friendly call. The clue to that is one of the last words, the last sentence,

in which Erdogan thanks the Russian people and leadership

for their support during the earthquake and all that.

And of course, probably Erdogan thanked Putin personally,

but Putin wasn't going to accept Erdogan's personal thanks.

So the Russians watered it down to thanking the Russian people and the Russian leadership.

In other words, Putin and Erdogan are not really friends, because that's what that really tells us.

So, you know, it was a rather stiff call.

But, again, going back to a point you made on a video, we did a short time ago.

You know, at the time of the Vilnius meeting, Erdogan agreeing to Sweden joining NATO,

shortly after he'd agreed to Finland joining NATO, the release of the Azov commanders to Ukraine and breach of promises that talk about entering

into military agreements with the Ukrainians, the support for Ukraine's NATO membership bid,

all of those things.

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