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The Brian Lehrer Show

Epstein Survivors Urge Congress to Release Government Files

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Jacob Shamsian talks about the latest developments in the Epstein saga as several survivors of Jeffrey Epstein urge Congress to act.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Brian Mayer on WNYC.

0:12.6

So Jeffrey Epstein is dead, though believe it or not, there are still some people who claim he isn't.

0:17.5

But his shadow still looms over questions of power, accountability, and abuse,

0:22.6

as you know. Nearly six years after his apparent suicide in a Manhattan jail cell,

0:27.9

and of course that's something else that people ask about, did he take his own life, or was it

0:32.1

something else? But survivors of his trafficking are still pressing for the truth.

0:38.4

They want Congress to pass the Epstein-Files Transparency Act,

0:42.5

a bill that would force the Justice Department and other agencies to release thousands of pages of sealed records.

0:49.9

Now, at a news conference yesterday in Washington, one survivor, Anurska de Giorgio, made a direct plea to President Trump.

0:58.3

President Trump, you have so much influence and power in this situation.

1:03.5

Please use that influence and power to help us because we need it now and this country needs it now.

1:10.6

President Trump's response was to call the whole thing a democratic hoax.

1:16.6

Epstein's accusers are also, however, considering compiling their own list of the people they say were in Epstein's orbit

1:24.3

after years of government in action and releasing that list to the public.

1:29.5

Meanwhile, the Trump administration is dismissing the entire saga as a hoax, despite the alleged

1:34.7

victims insisting it's not. After the news conference, under intense political pressure,

1:40.6

just enough Republicans voted yes on a resolution relating to releasing more documents,

1:47.6

but it's not binding. So where to things stand now with the push for transparency, the role of

1:52.3

Congress, and the continuing trauma for survivors, and what they may say publicly about other

1:59.4

people who may have abused them. Joining us is Jacob Shamsian,

2:03.2

legal correspondent at Business Insider, who's been reporting on the Epstein saga. Hi, Jacob,

2:08.6

welcome back to WNYC. Thanks so much for having me. And listeners, we can take some phone calls and

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