Epstein Revelations, Ja Rule vs. G-Unit, and Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.7 • 11.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2026

⏱️ 137 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel welcome The Ringer’s Logan Murdock to react to Ja Rule’s confrontation with Uncle Murda and Tony Yayo on a flight, before they discuss more revelations from the Epstein files, hip-hop in the Trump era, and an HGTV show’s cancellation for the host's use of the N-word. (0:00) Intro (3:19) Ja Rule vs. G-Unit in 2026 (19:15) Latest Epstein updates (1:02:15) Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels join the show (1:39:33) James Talarico vs. Jasmine Crockett (1:50:53) Hip-hop serves only itself? (2:01:36) The N-word and HGTV’s ‘Rehab Addict’ Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Logan Murdock, Symone Sanders Townsend, and Eugene Daniels Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Vote here for the NAACP Image Awards: vote.naacpimageawards.net Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up? Higher learning is on, is I, Van Latey Jr. And it's me, Rachel Lynn Lindsey. You got cousin Logan in the house today. It's All-Star. So Logan Murdoch is in the crib. What's up, Logan? How are you doing, brother? What's going on, man? What's happening with you, bro?
0:21.7	I'm really scared because last time I was on here,
0:23.6	you talked about shaving your balls.
0:25.4	And I think that's why, like, um, Logan, I think that's why I'm back here. I wouldn't even thinking about that. Because I need to be far away from that. But I'm happy to see you.
0:33.1	But I'm out here.
0:34.7	Logan is in the designated third co-host seat right there.
0:38.6	We got the shot back there.
0:39.8	But the reality is I wasn't even thinking about that. But I'm out here. Logan is in the designated third co-host seat right there.
0:38.6	We got the shot back there. But the reality is I wasn't even thinking about that. Now I'm thinking about it. Now, see, Logan, see, you're going to, you know how it's, it's in the back of his mind. It will now something sexual will. It's not sexual. What's sexual about shaving your balls, though? It's not sexual. It's not sexual, but it is.
0:55.6	It's, um, it's, um, personal.
0:57.7	I don't know.
0:58.0	I don't know. You're not sexual about shaving your balls though. It's not sexual. It's not sexual, but it is, it's, um, it's, um, personal.
0:57.5	I don't know.
0:58.0	I don't know what, I don't know what the word is. Like, this is my thing. And once again, we're not going to spend a whole lot of time on this. How about not any? But my thing is, he brought it up. He brought it up. I didn't mean to do this.
1:07.4	I didn't mean to do this.
1:08.4	He brought it up.
1:09.4	Okay, Logan, we're so happy you're here.
1:10.1	But here's the thing.
1:11.1	Happy you're back.
1:11.5	Why?
1:12.3	Logan, why are you back in town?
1:13.4	Why do we hold it all in?
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