Epstein Distractions, Dr. Umar vs. 50 Cent, and Van’s N-Word Game

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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Society & Culture

4.8 • 11.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2025

⏱️ 128 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel discuss the dysfunction in the FBI and the Trump administration as a whole in the lead-up to the release of more Epstein files. Plus, Keith Edwards sparks debate on criticisms of candidates. Then, Dr. Umar weighs in on the Netflix Diddy documentary, and Van introduces a new game. (0:00) Intro (3:48) Dysfunction in the FBI (29:57) Epstein distractions (39:32) Vivek Ramaswamy and the American dream (47:03) Keith Edwards and Jasmine Crockett (1:23:52) Dr. Umar vs. 50 Cent (1:38:47) Van’s N---a Number Game (1:59:55) Young Thug proposes to Mariah the Scientist Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Jon Jones Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yeah, yo, thought warriors.
0:10.2	Let's your glasses on.
0:11.3	What is up?
0:12.6	High Learning is on.
0:13.6	Is I Van Lathen, Jr.?
0:14.6	And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.
0:17.3	Rachel, what the hell's going on?
0:18.4	How's your road to recovery with your eyes?
0:20.4	It's good. I'm back. I'm back. You're back all the way. I'm from the south side. on? How's your road to recovery with your eyes? It's good.
0:20.9	I'm back.
0:21.7	I'm back.
0:22.5	You're back all the way.
0:23.3	I'm just outside. I'm wearing makeup. Why are you? Because I don't have my lashes yet. I can't get in for my lash appointment. So I feel like it looks better with glasses. My medas. The glasses hide the lashes. I feel like they do. They probably don't, but I feel like I like the glasses look.
0:38.4	I got some compliments on them in the last podcast.
0:40.9	Yeah, I think of the meta glasses. As a woman, what's the most essential beauty accessory? Oh. So, oh, let me frame the question. You feel like if you are a lady, because, you know, the lashes are important and different
0:59.1	stuff, but above all other things, you have to have this.
1:06.2	What's the most important beauty accessory?
1:08.0	Because it's not lashes.
1:08.9	For me, it is because I have big eyes.
1:10.4	Okay.
1:10.8	Like if you don't, I don't think you need lashes like I do. That's just me. I think it's eyebrows. Eyebrows. You've got to have like an eyebrow pencil liner. That's the eyebrows are the most, to me, important accessories. Shape your face. The whole thing. Yeah. Like it pops. It makes it just.
1:28.3	So if you don't have the eyebrows, then that's going to bring the overall product down.
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