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Shattered Souls

Episode Nine: "Matinees and Madness"

Shattered Souls

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True Crime, Society & Culture, Personal Journals, Education

4.34.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 May 2022

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Karen delves into the police interviews of William Clarke and Mary Branch and finds marked discrepancies, an unnamed DC cop, as well as a direct link to another person of interest -- the only person left alive after the murders. 

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0:00.0

Only for the grace of God, he's back to make the Dishore and is somehow found out of all the more county police.

0:09.0

I would say he's ruthless, it can become deadly given certain circumstances.

0:15.0

He's got a family, he's got a girlfriend, he's got her.

0:19.0

There had to be a strong motivation. You pay me up or else.

0:24.0

It can be one of two things, total incompetence or there can be an element of corruption.

0:30.0

That will not be discussed in this house.

0:33.0

He absolutely became pure as the mention of the Car Barn Merchants.

0:39.0

Welcome back to Shattered Souls, the Car Barn Merchants.

0:43.0

I'm your host, Karen Smith. This is Episode 9.

0:47.0

This podcast may contain graphic language and is not suitable for children.

0:53.0

Previously on the Car Barn Murders.

0:57.0

By early 1937, Montgomery County Maryland's data-turny James Pugh and Capitol Transit President John Hannah had lost faith in the investigation and the detectives in charge.

1:10.0

They attempted to secure two well-respected District of Columbia detectives to take over the Car Barn case, but their request was stone walled by DC Superintendents of police, Major Ernest Brown.

1:22.0

Brown told Pugh and Hannah that he needed permission from DC Commissioner Melvin Hazen prior to assigning his own investigators to the case.

1:32.0

Despite Commissioner Hazen's approval, Major Brown said that the two requested detectives were too busy on a very secret and very important case and couldn't investigate the Car Barn Murders.

1:45.0

Using information from DC Jail and Mate Horace Davis, detectives Vulton and Rogers went to Baltimore in January of 1936, a year after the murders, and met with Lillian Janie, the wife of Violent Phelan Robert Janie.

2:01.0

He was serving eight years in the Maryland State Penitentiary for armed robbery.

2:07.0

Lillian told Vulton and Rogers that Robert Janie had bragged to her about being involved in the Mary Baker Murder case, as well as another job in Chevy Chase, where he and several others had to shoot their way out, and he got $100 out of it.

2:24.0

Lillian also said that one morning in January of 1935, Janie came home with wet pants and spent that whole day sitting around staring at the walls.

2:36.0

Vulton and Rogers went to Janie's place of employment and found the time cards in his own writing that proved Janie wasn't working on the Night of the Car Barn Murders.

2:46.0

They drove Lillian to the prison to meet with Janie, using a strategy to elicit information from him.

2:52.0

It worked. Janie turned pale when my uncle's murder case was mentioned, and he dropped the name James Moody.

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