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🗓️ 16 January 2023
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“…we venerate the crooks, rapists, and pillagers credulous historians have repackaged as ‘founders,’ ‘conquerors,’ and ‘civilize.’ We erect statues and consecrate tombs to commemorate their difference-making. But in fact, most of these monuments memorialize the dark deeds of unhinged lunatics driven by rampant ego and raving greed… most of the supposed ‘great men of history’ were criminals on a rampage. We celebrate them because they ‘changed the world.’ But where’s the evidence that they changed it for the better?” — Chris Ryan
“He who dies with the most toys wins.” — Malcolm Forbes
“If we don’t put aside our enmities and band together, we will die. And then it doesn’t matter whose skeleton sits on the Iron Throne.” — Davos Seaworth, Game of Thrones Season 7 Episode 3
In most episodes I tell a story about a specific event with a clear beginning and end. Occasionally, I tackle a theme and look at how it plays out throughout history. This is one of those times. Simple stories are great, but sometimes looking at the big picture is even more interesting.
I am joined by Aziz Al-Doory from the History of Westeros podcast to chat about a central theme in history and, of course, in JRR Martin’s work: the drive that makes individuals struggle for power throughout history. In particular, we look at the more extreme (but by no means rare) examples: what makes someone risk his position and wealth in an effort to plunge a country into civil war for the sake of power? What goes through someone’s head who is willing to murder his siblings to get to the throne? Can uber-powerful people who executed their children and spouses ever have been happy? Why so many people have become addicted to a struggle that seems to be antithetical to having a good life?
As we ponder the answer to these questions, we tackle multiple case studies: from the Japanese warring states period to Shaka Zulu’s career, from the power struggle after the death of Alexander the Great to the conflict between Kublai Khan and his brother, and many more.
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to episode 97 of History on Fire. |
0:04.7 | In most episodes, you know by now that I usually just tell a story about a specific event with a clear beginning and end. |
0:13.6 | Occasionally, I tackle a theme and look at how it plays out throughout history. |
0:18.6 | This is one of those times. |
0:20.0 | You know, simple stories are great, but sometimes looking at the big pictures is even more interesting. |
0:25.8 | So today, I am joined by Aziz Alduri from the history of Westeros Podcast |
0:32.0 | to chat about a central theme in history, and of course in JRR Martins' work. |
0:38.6 | Specifically, this is one of those fundamental questions of history. |
0:43.4 | This is about the drive that makes individual struggle for power throughout history. |
0:49.0 | In particular, we look at the more extreme, but by no means rare examples. |
0:55.6 | You know, what makes someone risky is position and wealth in an effort to plan |
0:59.7 | a counter into civil war for the sake of power. |
1:02.6 | What goes through someone's head was willing to murder his siblings to get to the throne. |
1:07.8 | Can Uber-powerful people who executed their children and spouses ever have been happy people? |
1:15.8 | Why so many people have become addicted to a struggle that seems to be antithetical to having a good life? |
1:23.8 | As we ponder the answer to these questions, we'll tackle multiple case studies |
1:30.2 | from the Japanese War in State's period to Shaka Zulu's career |
1:34.6 | from the power struggle after the death of Alexander the Great |
1:38.6 | to the conflict between Kublai Khan and his brother, and many, many more. |
1:44.2 | But before we get to that, a couple of things I should mention. |
1:49.0 | First and foremost, as always, history and fire exists thanks to you guys listening. |
1:56.0 | You know, everybody was listening if you could please tell other people |
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