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I'm Hannah, I'm Sauruti, and welcome to Redhanded and first of all shout out to us for predicting

it's a very, very recent one. This is a very recent series of very recent killings that it could be argued would have been solved a lot faster if the victims had been straight and white.

A lot of factors come into play this week, so please wait until the end of the episode to make your mind up and then tweet to your heart's content, but just because we don't fall into a particular group doesn't mean we shouldn't tell their stories. We can always be allies.

So let's get into it. Homicide rates are incredibly low in Canada. In 2016 there was 611 murders across the whole country. That's only 1.68 per 100,000 people compared to the US's 5.35 per 100,000 people. That is pretty good going.

Now I was originally going to put like a UK statistic in there, but I was surprised to find that in England and Wales there were only 571 murders in 2016.

I was amazed by that. I was expecting to be much much better. I think I'm just so used to London statistics that like once you get outside of London if you average it across the whole country it probably is quite low.

I thought we were going to be able to make the old population argument, but it turns out that that doesn't work either. Because the UK has a population of 66 million and Canada has a population of just 37 million. So we're not doing bad. No, we're not doing bad at all.

Anyway, let's put the murder rate competition to one side. The point is that Canada has a very low murder rate.

Apart from this case, the most recent serial murders in Canada involved a 51 year old nurse who lead the lead the injected elderly patients with insulin between 2007 and 2016.

Canada also has a reputation for being a very liberal country. Everyone's very polite. They say thank you all the time.

That's definitely, you know, I have minted Canada, but that's definitely the stereotype, isn't it, that it's very polite and clean?

I've been to Niagara on the lake, which is like rural Ontario, my cousin's wedding. And it's very like, it's kind of like Disneyland in that like, it doesn't look real.

I mean, to me as like a grubby city girl, like it doesn't, doesn't look real. Like everything is so clean and so like pristine and lovely. And we were all dressed up for the wedding.

And at the time, I was very into dressing like a 50s person. So I had this like big blue like polka dot dress on who the fuck do I think I am. Anyway, that's why I wore to my cousin's wedding.

I mean, my sister who was also dressed up nots, but she was still like, looked like she was going somewhere. People clapped as we walked down the street. It was so strange.

Oh my God, so strange. That's so polite though. Look at this, look at the effort these women have put into their outfits. Let's give them a round for the pool.

Well, that's the thing because my cousin put on the wedding invite. She was like, oh, cocktail attire. And I texted her. I was like, does that mean I have to wear like a specific cocktail dress? Because that is a very specific kind of dress.

And she was like, oh, no, no, don't worry. It's just to stop the Canadians from showing up in jeans. Wow. The Canadian tuxedo is double denim brilliant.

So basically very polite, very liberal. Guys have got a universal health care system over there like we do. And gay marriage has been legal since 2005 in Canada.

The case we're covering today concluded in Toronto last year. And for some, it threw Canada's all accepting nature into question.

The gay village in Toronto is quite a small area. It has gay bars, gay clubs, gay bookshops, your standard gay neighborhood. I imagine it to be a little bit like so-ho like Alcounton Street in London.

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