Welcome to the Habits and Hustle Podcast. A podcast that uncovers the rituals, unspoken

habits and mindsets of extraordinary people. A podcast powered by habit nest. Now here's

your host, Jennifer Cohen.

So welcome to another edition of Habits and Hustle. And today we have a very special guest

who is here from South Carolina. His name is, I always pronounce this wrong and I know

I'm going to do it again, but Dr. Conover. Oh, I got it. Good. Okay. I usually say

Carnivore. So Conover. Conover's it. And he's a performance medicine doctor. I've never

heard anybody actually refer to themselves as that. So can you give us what kind of give

us for it and who you are? Sure. Well, thanks for having me. I appreciate bringing it.

So performance medicine. I think I came up with the term, you know, family medicine

trained, but kind of operating outside of that jurisdiction pretty much for my whole career,

so to speak. And I got involved with the functional alternative medicine crowd. And I never

really felt right. Just because a lot of functional medicine is based on this kind of robotic

principle that we're all the same. And in many respects, functional medicine has the

same mindset as, you know, alopathic medicine, which uses a pharmaceutical model. And functional

medicine uses the Neutraceutical model. We're just going to take this for that. Well, I was going

to say you actually, when, when after you told me or once you kind of gave us the definition of what a

performance medical doctor is, I wanted you to kind of give us the difference between what a

functional medicine doctor is and what a performance optimization doctor is, right? So functional

medicine, you know, a lot of people more of chronic disease that got problems, whether it's diabetes

or autoimmune disease cancer, and they're going to see a functional medicine doctor because they

want to get to the root cause. Right. And maybe so you're going to have a lot of different lab tests

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