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🗓️ 20 March 2017
⏱️ 86 minutes
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Law School Expert Ann Levine joins Episode 87 to discuss Harvard Law School’s recent bombshell—they are now giving students the option of submitting their GRE score instead of their LSAT score.
Ann is optimistic that this policy will create waves in the LSAC’s antiquated testing system and bring about changes that will ultimately benefit all applicants. The guys agree with her, however, Ben is unsure about the timeline for these shifts and whether students preparing for the LSAT might be facing stronger competition in the next year or so. Hear advice from all three on what students can do to deal with this news, then check out Ann’s blog on the topic. (1:45)
“JaBron from the car wash” (hopefully the LSAC won’t charge this listener for borrowing that title from their logic game!) asks about the nuances of LSAT wording. Ben and Nathan walk through the definitions of few, almost all, rarely, many, tends to, and other quantifiers, but urge JaBron to focus less on the hard definition of such terms and more on how to interpret them in the context of the question and its five answer choices. In discussing the ambiguity of such things, the guys (somehow) end up waxing poetic on the inevitability of amortality. (25:10)
Matt from D.C. writes in with his own thoughts relating slow and solid economic growth to the Thinking LSAT Podcast’s “slow down” philosophy. (47:37)
Luis, a 27-year-old in Austin, has been considering law school for years but continues to be unsure whether it’s the right career for him. With a low undergrad GPA, he will need an impressive LSAT score, but he is enjoying studying and is confident he can earn a 170 or higher. With very little debt from his undergrad degree, Luis is willing to drain his pension fund to pay for law school, if necessary. Nathan and Ben stop Luis right there and strongly advise him against this unsound financial plan. Instead, they urge him to apply broadly and to look at the margins to see what programs will make sense for his future. (51:52)
Before hearing the Thinking LSAT Podcast, Jay was scoring in the mid-160s on his practice tests. After becoming an avid podcast listener, he took the February LSAT and scored a 174 on his first attempt. He credits two pieces of advice from Ben and Nathan with this life-altering score jump. (1:03:45)
Mike, the Nyquil guy from Episode 66, writes in to update the show on the offers he’s received since scoring a 170 in September. Huge scholarship offers from the likes of George Washington, USC, UCLA, and Cornell prove that the hard work you put into the LSAT will be rewarded. Mike also shares the spreadsheet that he created to determine, using the law schools’ own index formulas (available on LSAC.org), a student’s target schools. (1:17:10)
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to episode 87 of the Thinking Elsap podcast. This is Ben Olson in Washington, D.C. |
0:15.0 | And with me today, as always is Nathan Fox in LA, I assume. |
0:19.5 | Yep, hello. |
0:20.7 | Okay, and we have special guest, Anne Levine, the Elsat expert. |
0:26.0 | Anne, where are you? |
0:28.0 | Not an Elsat expert. You guys are the Elsat expert. |
0:30.0 | Oh, did I say Elsat expert? Well, I don't want to be an else that expert. I'm not give that to you. |
0:37.0 | Yeah, okay, thanks. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. My mind is,'s all good so anyways yeah where are you |
0:44.8 | Santa Barbara about I don't know a hundred miles or so from wherever Nathan is awesome I'm |
0:50.4 | jealous of you guys I'm assuming it's really warm there. |
0:53.0 | Probably in LA, yes. |
0:56.0 | Not Santa Barbara. |
0:58.0 | It's okay, but we don't have two feet of snow, so it's all good. |
1:01.0 | Good. |
1:02.0 | Well, cool. |
1:03.0 | We're excited to have you on the show. |
1:04.0 | Of course, we're going to have to jump in and talk about what the heck Harvard is doing. |
1:08.0 | We have a ton of emails, so we'll be going through all of those. |
1:12.0 | I don't know how many we can get through. |
1:14.1 | We have an essential record correction, |
1:16.2 | a mistake that I made last time, some questions about quantifiers. |
1:21.6 | Those are words like some most in all. We have some support from Naseim to Lebs |
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