It's Wednesday, April 1st, and you're listening to the Secret Cubs Ball Gaming Podcast.

Today, the Founders Review, Deiess, and look back at Nations, and discuss what video games the founders would like to see as board games.

And the founder's guide to the zombie apocalypse.

And now, please welcome the secret cabal founders. Hello and welcome to Caball Founders.

Hello and welcome to episode 85 of the Secret Caball Gaming Podcast.

My name is Jamie.

Tony here.

Hello, folks, Brian.

Hey, this is Chris.

And this is Steve.

So one of the, one of my favorite things when I board game is when someone takes a game I hate and makes me like it.

Deadwinner was a failure on that.

I still don't like that game.

Your buddy Don had the idea in his mind that he would force us to like it if he taught

us the proper way to play it.

I think he could, he thought he could convince us.

It convinced us, yeah. And no.

It didn't work out for us.

But I was telling Jamie, I would try Siv again.

Right.

And I did not like Siv at all.

But we played this the other day for eight hours.

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