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The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast

Episode 84: When This Lousy War Is Over

The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast

National Review

News, Politics, Music, Arts, Books, Music History

51000 Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

On episode 84, Charles talks to Michael Vorenberg about his new book, 'Lincoln's Peace: The Struggle to End the American Civil War.' When did the Civil War end? Why is it hard to tell? What about other wars? Does it matter that war aims can evolve over time? Can one be anti-war when slavery or the Holocaust are at stake? Are modern wars more difficult to end?

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0:00.0

Welcome to episode

0:05.0

of the Charles C.W. Cook podcast.

0:26.6

I missed last week as I was partially off.

0:30.3

Toward the end of the week, we went to Universal Studios here in Florida for my eldest son's birthday.

0:41.5

It was a terrific trip. He went on every roller coaster that he was tall enough to go on with me, but he was turned away from the

0:48.4

incredible Hulk. And it was strange because we measured him before we left, 54 inches.

0:57.4

We went up to the front of the ride where they have the marker, 54 inches.

1:03.7

We then get into the line, and by some miracle, when we get to the front, we've been allocated the front seats, which is the best.

1:15.1

And then, as we're walking to get into the seats, the lady says, oh, actually, I need to measure your son one more time.

1:20.6

And I thought, well, that's okay, because we've measured him at home.

1:23.9

He was measured at the front.

1:26.1

He's fine.

1:27.6

And he wasn't.

1:29.2

I don't know how else to say it.

1:31.8

It's not that she made it up or pushed his head down or he was slouching.

1:36.5

Whatever yardstick they had at the ride itself was a different height than the one they had at the front of the ride, the one that they

1:47.5

had on other rides, and the one that we have at home. We don't actually have a roller coaster

1:53.9

yardstick at home. We have a tape measure, but we also have wall charts. We've written their

1:59.2

heights on over the years.

2:02.5

And he's 54 inches.

2:03.2

He just is.

2:08.5

So I'm not blaming the person who was working at the ride.

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