This is the Unregistered Podcast, and I'm Thaddeus Russell.

This is a show about ideas, people, and behaviors that are considered inappropriate, out of bounds, or beyond the pale.

The things you're not supposed to talk about if you're a schoolteacher, a college professor, a businessman, a politician, a parent, a neighbor, or even a podcast host. These are the things you're not supposed to say or even think if you're a good liberal, a good conservative, or a good citizen. Each week, I'll interview a person who has something bad to say.

They might be a journalist or a professor, they might be a porn star or a drug dealer.

They might just be an ordinary person with an ordinary job who doesn't care about the rules of

polite society. I'm not interested in breaking the rules just to be a troublemaker.

I'm interested in people who break the rules of conventional thought

and to expand the scope of what is possible to say in our society.

I'm interested in people who make me think.

Jerry Sandusky, the assistant football coach at Penn State, who raped dozens of boys,

children over two decades, using his power and authority as a coach and a mentor, to manipulate

and sexually exploit and violate dozens and dozens of children.

That is what Jerry Sandusky did, according to virtually every American, except for one.

This is my interview with John Ziegler.

Thank you. This is my interview with John Ziegler. God damn it, about two weeks ago or less, I, something came across the internet.

And I think it was on Twitter.

Someone just mentioned some article about a journalist named John Ziegler who had proven that Jerry Sandusky was innocent.

And I had known nothing about this project.

And apparently it was a project long in the making.

And I immediately became fascinated and chased it down.

And I chased down the guy who wrote this piece, John Ziegler,

who's sitting in front of me in Los Angeles. And I want to say something about this case,

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