So Norm, has the Supreme Court completely derailed all of the other Trump prosecutions?

Well, it's complicated.

I'm Aisha Renga. I teach national security law at Yale University. I'm a former FBI special agent and I'm a legal analyst for ABC News. And I'm Renato Mariati.

I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer and a legal analyst.

And I'm Norm Eisen and I am a CNN legal analyst, a lifelong defense lawyer, and so excited to be joining my friends Asha and Renato for today's

podcast and we're here to help you understand topics that can't be boiled down into a sound bite or a bait. Okay, so we've had a week now to digest.

To digest the, digest the indigestible. We need legal roll aids for this.

We need tums. We need legal tums for this. So I think this is going to be a great podcast

because I don't know if you listen to this norm,

and it's okay if you don't because you're very busy

and you're doing a lot of important work.

But Renato is known as the Sad Panda on the podcast.

He's always like, Wawh, and one of the reasons that I thought you would be a great guest is you are the eternal optimist no matter what

And so I feel like this is going to be a showcase showdown in terms of what you guys both see happening.

Do you know how depressing it'll be if I agree with Renato on the prognosis?

It'll be like a double-down depression depression but fortunately I have a complex but a mixed perspective on the

Supreme Court decision and the election and the fate of our democracy.

So it won't all be bad.

Why don't you tell us what your impression is of the opinion itself a quick?

I mean, Renato and I kind of talked about it last week, but where are you now a week later

on how bad it actually is and what is going to happen with the January 6th case and then we'll progress to the other cases.

You know, there's levels of badness to this atrocious opinion, which I classify really among the very worst in American history at

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