Episode 808: Big Intel and the Future of the FBI
Newt's World
Gingrich 360
4.7 • 6.3K Ratings
🗓️ 7 February 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Newt talks with former CIA operative, J. Michael Waller about his new book, "Big Intel: How the CIA and FBI Went from Cold War Heroes to Deep State Villains." Waller explains how the FBI and CIA have shifted from their original missions to becoming tools of political correctness and propaganda. He highlights the politicization and bureaucratization of these agencies, particularly under the Obama administration, and the impact of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives. Waller also critiques the intelligence community's failure to adapt to modern threats and suggests a fundamental redesign of the CIA and FBI, including splitting the CIA into separate entities for intelligence gathering and covert operations, and decentralizing the FBI's power. Their discussion also covers the need for a strategic overhaul to restore the effectiveness and integrity of America's intelligence and law enforcement agencies.
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| 0:00.0 | On this episode of Nutsworld, in the beginning, the FBI and CIA fought America's enemies at home and abroad. |
| 0:13.2 | Now there are tools of a growing police state, attacking the left's political enemies and spying on ordinary American citizens. |
| 0:21.7 | How did we get here? |
| 0:23.7 | In his new book, Big Intel, how the CIA and FBI went from Cold War heroes to deep state villains. |
| 0:32.3 | Former CIA operative Jay Michael Waller shows how normal intelligence functions have given way to political |
| 0:39.0 | correctness and never-ending pride propaganda, trapping agents in the diversity, equity, |
| 0:45.3 | and inclusion, House of Mayors. |
| 0:48.2 | I'm really pleased to welcome my guest, Jay Michael Waller, senior analysts for strategy |
| 0:53.8 | at the Center for Security Policy. |
| 0:56.4 | His areas of expertise include foreign propaganda, political warfare, psychological warfare, and subversion. |
| 1:05.5 | He holds a Ph.D. in International Security Affairs from the Boston University. |
| 1:23.6 | Thank you. International Security Affairs from the Boston University. Michael, welcome, and thank you for joining me on Newts World. |
| 1:27.3 | It's great to be with you. You mentioned that it's been, what, and thank you for joining me on Newark. It's great to be with you. |
| 1:28.6 | You mentioned that it's been, what, 43 years since you guys were hanging out in my office? |
| 1:33.7 | The top of the Cannon House office building. |
| 1:36.1 | It's amazing how much time flies when you're having fun, isn't it? |
| 1:38.9 | It really is. |
| 1:40.1 | Walk me for a second and turns of your own life. |
| 1:42.0 | What happened from college Republicans to today? |
| 1:45.1 | Well, I ended up getting involved with friends of yours, with Herb Romerstein and Faith Whittlesey and Morton Blackwell and others at the White House through college Republicans and was the White House youth person for promoting Reagan's policy to roll back the Soviet Union. |
| 1:59.0 | And they got me down with the Contras in Central America, |
| 2:01.3 | and I did some work for Bill Casey. And then went on to become a professor and teaching a lot of |
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