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Burn It All Down

Episode 8: Pride Party

Burn It All Down

Burn It All Down

Sports

4.5 • 740 Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2017

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 8, Lindsay Gibbs and Brenda Elsey discuss the current state of LGBTQ issues in sports with Amira Rose Davis and Jen Mac Ramos. Then Shireen Ahmed brings us an interview about roller derby and trans inclusion in sports with Alex Hanna, and Lindsay talks with WNBA star Layshia Clarendon of the Atlanta Dream about the WNBA's journey with LGBTQ inclusion and her experience as a black, gay, non-cisgender athlete. Zoe Hayden of the Victory Press joins Brenda and Lindsay for the Burn Pile, followed by our record-smashing Bad Ass Woman of the Week. Welcome! (3:18) Prof. Amira Rose Davis discusses the state of out LGBTQ athletes in major sports’ leagues, from Michael Sam to recent announcements. Discussion of race plays a role in shaping the process of coming out. Conversation moves to LGBTQ players and fans in women’s sports, marketability, capitalism, and race. Discussion of international state of affairs Nigerian, Brazilian, and US women national teams – how do race and sexuality differ across place? Amira Rose Davis discusses historical precedents of sex testing and its relationship of race. Finally panel discusses state of LGBTQ in women’s college coaching (22:31) Jen Mac Ramos joins BIAD to discuss Pride Nights in MLB and how sports’ organizations could make a more inclusive environment for LGBTQ fans/players. Brenda discusses FIFA’s efforts to stop Mexican fans’ homophobic chants. Conversation about Christian Faith Night and St. Louis Cardinals – and the PR versus genuine commitment to LGBTQ rights. Jen Mac Ramos discusses their personal reasons for publicly discussing gender identity as sports’ admin (35:33) Shireen Ahmed interviews Alex Hanna, a professor at University of Toronto and roller derbier, activist working in transgender inclusion in education and healthcare. Alex discusses the power of roller derby for trans and queer communities. (50:17) Layshia Clarendon discuss Pride month and the WNBA. Clarendon discusses the changes over the last five seasons and changes in embrace of LGBTQ rights. She urges athletes to defend trans members of community. (1:09:40) Burn Pile, joined by Zoë Hayden from Victory Press about the narratives of out athletes that put pressure on athletes to come out. Brenda Elsey burns Sally Jenkins for blaming Title IX for problems in women’s sports (1:19:06) Bad Ass Woman of the Week: Diana Taurasi , including clips from WNBA stars and LeBron James congratulating Taurasi becoming all-time scoring record (1:25:08) Links: Coming out: http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/10429030/michael-sam-missouri-tigers-says-gay, https://www.outsports.com/2017/6/20/15835374/ryan-ocallaghan-gay-nfl-new-england-patriots-kansas-city-chiefs, http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/27/sports/basketball/swoopes-says-she-is-gay-and-exhales.html and http://www.espn.com/espnw/news-commentary/article/13835681/what-sheryl-swoopes-got-wrong-today-wnba Seattle teams: http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/seattle-pro-sports-teams-unite-to-promote-lgbt-inclusion/  Baseball Pride Nights: https://www.outsports.com/2017/5/18/15657166/great-lakes-loons-york-revolution-baseball-lgbt-pride-nights Berkman: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/birdland/berkman-explains-his-comments-opposing-equal-rights-ordinance/article_ea6d4526-6768-56ce-8c57-3bf2a82bc8d1.html Alex Hanna: http://alex-hanna.com/, http://torontorollerderby.com/, https://wftda.com/ Sally Jenkins: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/womens-college-athletes-dont-need-another-coddling-parent-they-need-a-coach/2017/06/23/4765cf40-5820-11e7-a204-ad706461fa4f_story.html Taurasi: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/19/533546960/diana-taurasi-breaks-wnba-all-time-scoring-record  Audio for Taurasi setting the record: Broadcast of Taurasi breaking the record (@WNBA, Tina Thompson (at The Summitt), Ivory Latta, Elizabeth Williams, and Tiffany Mitchell (@WNBA), Lebron James (@uninterrupted) Learn more about your ad choices. V

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Okay, hello. Welcome to burn it all down.

1:04.1

It might not be the feminist sports podcast you want, but it's the feminist sports podcast you need.

1:07.0

As you might have already noticed, I'm not Julie DeCaro.

1:09.9

I'm Lindsay Gibbs, the sports reporter from Think Progress.

1:11.5

Julie's off this week,

1:16.6

as is Jessica Luther and Shereen Ahmed. But I am here with the incomparable Brenda Elsie,

1:23.1

an associate professor at Hofstra. We are here today to bring you an extra special episode of Burn It All Down. Pride Party, where we discuss LGBTQ issues in sports in every segment.

1:32.1

Brenda, how are you doing?

1:33.9

I'm feeling great today. How are you?

1:36.3

I'm doing good. Have you done anything special for Pride Month?

1:40.1

You know, I did. Last weekend, there was an inaugural pride party in my town of Red Hook, New York, nestled in the Hudson Valley.

1:48.3

There's about, I don't know, 2,000 of us in the village.

1:51.4

And they launched their inaugural parade, and I was there.

1:55.9

And I was really excited to be there and to document it with my family.

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