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The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast

Episode 79: Beautiful, Profound, and Moving

The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast

National Review

News, Politics, Music, Arts, Books, Music History

51000 Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

On episode 79, Charles talks to Justin Shubow, the president of the National Civic Art Society, about the importance of classical architecture. What is classical architecture? Why is it "humanist"? What's wrong with modern art? Why do people defend it? Would it be too expensive to return to classical architecture? Why was Penn Station knocked down? Should it be rebuilt? What are the prospects of a renaissance in architecture under Donald Trump?

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0:00.0

Welcome to Episode 79, the Charles C.W. Cook podcast from a very, very cold Florida.

0:31.9

It may be about to snow here in Florida. And I know what you're thinking, because most of you don't live in

0:39.1

Florida, you're thinking, boo-hoo. That's not very cold. But the thing is, I have been completely

0:46.8

wimpified by Florida. I grew up in England. It wasn't hugely cold, although it could be. It wasn't cold like it is in

0:57.1

Minnesota, or where my late colleague Luther Ray Abel lived in Wisconsin. But it was cold and rainy

1:05.5

sometimes, and I got used to different sorts of temperatures. And since I moved to Florida, that is slowly ebbed away.

1:13.2

And now I'm a total wimp.

1:15.6

And really, all I want is for it to be 90 degrees.

1:21.4

Sometimes when my kids go to their various athletic pursuits,

1:29.9

my wife and I will go watch them and get a glass of wine.

1:40.3

And really swiftly, once you've taken the wine outside, condensation will form on the outside of the glass.

1:47.4

And it's annoying. It's difficult to drink white wine that gets warm very quickly,

1:55.1

but you know, right now, I would take this for anything rather than this Arctic 35 degree.

1:59.9

Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. It is Arctic to me. I just can't do it anymore. Today's show is brought to you by

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